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  • #16


    Ultimate Financial Planning Guide for the Physician Mom To Be
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    Personally, many of the costs you describe (besides childcare unless you have a stay at home parent) are optional. Yes I realize things are different "now" but My parents did not spend money on camps, enrichments etc. I'm sure I will, but it really is optional. They don't need to cost that much.

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    • #17





      Ultimate Financial Planning Guide for the Physician Mom To Be 
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      Personally, many of the costs you describe (besides childcare unless you have a stay at home parent) are optional. Yes I realize things are different “now” but My parents did not spend money on camps, enrichments etc. I’m sure I will, but it really is optional. They don’t need to cost that much.
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      Yes, I completely agree with you, Miss Bonnie, all the things I described ARE optional.  Just like living in NYC, having the pregnancy or babyhood experience one envisions, its all optional.

      The truth is, and let's be totally honest, even though all the things described ARE optional, we, as the middle class/upper class individual/couples/ parents, will do them. We will voluntarily choose to do them and pay for them. So, despite it ALL being optional, realistically we should just be honest about it and discuss it as being part of the cost of being parents in this day and age.

      I also did not grow up privileged, I carried student loans for both public undergrad and med school that I paid off myself and am now trying to catch up to all the other "more privileged" offsprings in terms of learning and implementing 401K, retirement planning, prenup planning, college savings, estate planning, etc.

      It is optional, but it is also the truth.

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      • #18
        I've got a 10month old at home, so just went through this whole process. My guess is that by the time you actually have the babe, your husband will be done with training and in his attending job and you'll be totally fine. But to be on the safe side I'd just save up another 3 months of emergency funds and dip in to that if needed.

        I do outpt psychiatry at an academic center. I took 3 months for maternity leave (all paid) and then went back at 0.25FTE. The plan was to scale up to 0.5FTE 3 months later and then back to 0.75FTE (which is what I have been working since finishing residency 3 years ago) 3 months after that. But about 6 weeks into my return to work I realized that was not at all going to happen. I have a 9 yo and I had vague recollections about how hard the first year was (that I had done a good job of repressing) and maybe being older had something to do with it, but my adorable baby was kicking my trash. There was no way I was going to scale up my work hours that fast and remain a sane human being. Luckily my work has been SUPER accommodating (it helps that they can't recruit another doc into my position) and told me I could do whatever I wanted with my hours. So around the time the baby was 7 months old I went to 0.34 FTE and I'll probably continue there until he's 18 months old or so.

        Since this is your first kid, you just don't know how you are going to react to parenthood, what challenges you will face, when you will ever sleep again, etc. I have been blessed with babies that don't believe in sleeping at night, and that takes its toll and makes it hard to really keep it together at work. I can't imagine how I would deal with working full time. However, I have friends who went back full time after 2 months and were happy to do so. You just never know. If you are planning to go back full time after your leave, remember that fed is best as breastfeeding or pumping while working full time as a doc would be quite a challenge and may not be doable. Plus your husband can help with night feeds if baby takes a bottle.

        Reliable childcare that you trust is also a must have. It's impossible to go back to work if you are worried about who is taking care of baby and how they are doing it. If you're going the daycare route, start looking now and get on several wait lists.

        Kids are as expensive as you make them. We have found that thus far, our 9yo was most expensive when he was attending montessori school prior to starting kindergarten. Public school, school district run summer camp, rec leagues, extracurricular activities through the school are all relatively inexpensive. But I know not everyone has access to those things.

        Anyway, good luck on your journey. I hope the path is a smooth and straightforward one for you and your husband.

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        • #19
          Thanks for all the wonderful advice! I like to plan often and early, so this is excellent information

           




          But to be on the safe side I’d just save up another 3 months of emergency funds and dip in to that if needed.
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          What would be the best account to save that additional 3 mo of emergency funds that I may need to dip into if I have to leave work before my husband starts his attending job/or maybe never; a CD?

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          • #20




            Thanks for all the wonderful advice! I like to plan often and early, so this is excellent information ????

             




            But to be on the safe side I’d just save up another 3 months of emergency funds and dip in to that if needed.
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            What would be the best account to save that additional 3 mo of emergency funds that I may need to dip into if I have to leave work before my husband starts his attending job/or maybe never; a CD?
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            No just regular savings account.

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            • #21




               




              Edit – Just saw your husband is a resident.  Assuming he’s making decent PGY3, PGY4 money, and you’re living below your means, and you don’t take a huge amount of time off, you should be fine.  Now if you’re on bedrest for 20 weeks before the child is born, might have to make some adjustments. Do you have family to lean on, etc?
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              @Craigy- What do you consider is a “huge amount of time off” for a child?  What do you consider is the appropriate amount? What information do you use to make that decision? Financial? Child development research? Maternal/ paternal post baby mental health data? Both parents’ adjustment to caring for child? Curious.
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              At the risk of adjusting the chip on your shoulder...  :lol:

              Some women take 3mos, 6mos, a year, retire altogether, etc.  Add to that many women plan in advance to start their leave months before the baby is even due.  That's all good and well, but let's face it, it's a luxury.

              Assuming ddscook takes a normal amount of time (4, 6, 8, 10 weeks?), and assuming all goes well and she's not lying on tilt for 4 months of her pregnancy, her paid time off, her cash in the bank, her husband's income, etc. should be more than enough to get them through a couple months of no pay.

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                Edit – Just saw your husband is a resident.  Assuming he’s making decent PGY3, PGY4 money, and you’re living below your means, and you don’t take a huge amount of time off, you should be fine.  Now if you’re on bedrest for 20 weeks before the child is born, might have to make some adjustments. Do you have family to lean on, etc?
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                @Craigy- What do you consider is a “huge amount of time off” for a child?  What do you consider is the appropriate amount? What information do you use to make that decision? Financial? Child development research? Maternal/ paternal post baby mental health data? Both parents’ adjustment to caring for child? Curious.
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                At the risk of adjusting the chip on your shoulder…  ????

                Some women take 3mos, 6mos, a year, retire altogether, etc.  Add to that many women plan in advance to start their leave months before the baby is even due.  That’s all good and well, but let’s face it, it’s a luxury.

                Assuming ddscook takes a normal amount of time (4, 6, 8, 10 weeks?), and assuming all goes well and she’s not lying on tilt for 4 months of her pregnancy, her paid time off, her cash in the bank, her husband’s income, etc. should be more than enough to get them through a couple months of no pay.c
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                lol.  I don't know if what you write will adjust anything.  I think what you write says more about you than me.

                I suppose if 4, 6, 8, or 10 weeks works for you when you personally have your baby (like carry the kid for hopefully 9 months and then push kid out), then more power to you.  FWIW, most obs don't see their post delivery patients for a full postpartum visit until 6 weeks, so I don't even know what to say about thinking one can be at one's total pre baby self at 4 weeks.  Four weeks is definitely not even close to enough for all the physical, mental and emotional recovery for me after I had my first child.    So I will admit, I may be a wimp.  But I definitely won't go around doling out advice about what's normal or enough until I have actually gone through it myself.

                I throw out those questions more for those of us who will be experiencing this phenomenon to allow them to make decisions for themselves. Ddscooks is making the initiative to plan ahead, in hope to minimize the hit for her family and also be realistic, so I think we do owe it to the upcoming female physicians to tell her what its really like.  If she can cover her pregnancy and new babyhood income loss herself, then she also decreases the maternity leave burden for her employers, because it may allow her employers to find a locum to cover for her without her suffering much in term of financial stability at the homefront.  The worst is when the new moms can't afford to take sufficient time off but is also not able to be fully productive at work to meet quota.  In that situation, both the new mom and the practice suffer.

                If you look at the financial aspects, 3K really isn't that much.  Just for thought, how much time (office panels, calls, procedures or whatever clinical medicine) do you have to do in your field to general 3K?  Most of us bring in at least 20K of income per month, so 3K/month is really not significant (this is especially true in a dual income family).   If I decide to work even 2 less days per month after delivery and or cut back even more and go part time or less, the lost of income will easily be more than 3K/month (nevermind whatever other optional choices I make).

                 

                 

                 

                 

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                  Edit – Just saw your husband is a resident.  Assuming he’s making decent PGY3, PGY4 money, and you’re living below your means, and you don’t take a huge amount of time off, you should be fine.  Now if you’re on bedrest for 20 weeks before the child is born, might have to make some adjustments. Do you have family to lean on, etc?
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                  @Craigy- What do you consider is a “huge amount of time off” for a child?  What do you consider is the appropriate amount? What information do you use to make that decision? Financial? Child development research? Maternal/ paternal post baby mental health data? Both parents’ adjustment to caring for child? Curious.
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                  At the risk of adjusting the chip on your shoulder…  ????

                  Some women take 3mos, 6mos, a year, retire altogether, etc.  Add to that many women plan in advance to start their leave months before the baby is even due.  That’s all good and well, but let’s face it, it’s a luxury.

                  Assuming ddscook takes a normal amount of time (4, 6, 8, 10 weeks?), and assuming all goes well and she’s not lying on tilt for 4 months of her pregnancy, her paid time off, her cash in the bank, her husband’s income, etc. should be more than enough to get them through a couple months of no pay.c
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                  lol.  I don’t know if what you write will adjust anything.  I think what you write says more about you than me.

                  I suppose if 4, 6, 8, or 10 weeks works for you when you personally have your baby (like carry the kid for hopefully 9 months and then push kid out), then more power to you.  FWIW, most obs don’t see their post delivery patients for a full postpartum visit until 6 weeks, so I don’t even know what to say about thinking one can be at one’s total pre baby self at 4 weeks.  Four weeks is definitely not even close to enough for all the physical, mental and emotional recovery for me after I had my first child.    So I will admit, I may be a wimp.  But I definitely won’t go around doling out advice about what’s normal or enough until I have actually gone through it myself.

                  I throw out those questions more for those of us who will be experiencing this phenomenon to allow them to make decisions for themselves. Ddscooks is making the initiative to plan ahead, in hope to minimize the hit for her family and also be realistic, so I think we do owe it to the upcoming female physicians to tell her what its really like.  If she can cover her pregnancy and new babyhood income loss herself, then she also decreases the maternity leave burden for her employers, because it may allow her employers to find a locum to cover for her without her suffering much in term of financial stability at the homefront.  The worst is when the new moms can’t afford to take sufficient time off but is also not able to be fully productive at work to meet quota.  In that situation, both the new mom and the practice suffer.

                  If you look at the financial aspects, 3K really isn’t that much.  Just for thought, how much time (office panels, calls, procedures or whatever clinical medicine) do you have to do in your field to general 3K?  Most of us bring in at least 20K of income per month, so 3K/month is really not significant (this is especially true in a dual income family).   If I decide to work even 2 less days per month after delivery and or cut back even more and go part time or less, the lost of income will easily be more than 3K/month (nevermind whatever other optional choices I make).
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                  You're putting a lot of words in my mouth, that's ok.  I'll just say that this is a financial forum, she asked a financial question, and there are plenty of other mom forums out there if she wants reassurance in other areas.

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