4 pages in and not a single mention of Jeep Grand Cherokees? Guess I'm the only one that loves them!
Parents had a Toyota Highlander, always enjoyed driving it too.
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Trying to convince my wife to trade in the Highlander hybrid for an Odyssey.
The Highlander has the worst climate control system I’ve seen. The touchscreen is clunky. I don’t believe cars should have touch screens, period. Also even though it has a lot of horsepower owing to the ICE + two electric motors, you can’t exactly enjoy it with the amount of body roll it has. Add leather seats and you’re sliding all over the place if you take a tight turn. That said, there’s decent noise isolation, which was one of my big concerns. I wonder how the Odyssey fares in comparison.
My 2016 odyssey climate controls are not touch screen but not intuitive. I feel like it has to have had singlehandedly caused crashes. The user interface for audio is even worse and is touchscreen. But I still love the van for capacity and driveability.
We have a 2016 Odyssey as well. I actually have no complaints about the climate controls–they seem relatively mundane to me. But oh the Audio/DVD system…I’m with you there. I still cannot really figure out how to get a DVD going easily. When we put it a DVD in, it automatically turns off the rear speakers, assuming you will be using the headphones. They are too big for 66% of my three kids heads, so I have to manually go in and change the audio balance/fade so they can hear. I don’t understand it at all.
we bought kid headphones on amazon. they were like $10 each. the biggest challenge is keeping the kids from turning the volume too high as they get old enough to do so.
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Trying to convince my wife to trade in the Highlander hybrid for an Odyssey.
The Highlander has the worst climate control system I’ve seen. The touchscreen is clunky. I don’t believe cars should have touch screens, period. Also even though it has a lot of horsepower owing to the ICE + two electric motors, you can’t exactly enjoy it with the amount of body roll it has. Add leather seats and you’re sliding all over the place if you take a tight turn. That said, there’s decent noise isolation, which was one of my big concerns. I wonder how the Odyssey fares in comparison.
My 2016 odyssey climate controls are not touch screen but not intuitive. I feel like it has to have had singlehandedly caused crashes. The user interface for audio is even worse and is touchscreen. But I still love the van for capacity and driveability.
We have a 2016 Odyssey as well. I actually have no complaints about the climate controls--they seem relatively mundane to me. But oh the Audio/DVD system...I'm with you there. I still cannot really figure out how to get a DVD going easily. When we put it a DVD in, it automatically turns off the rear speakers, assuming you will be using the headphones. They are too big for 66% of my three kids heads, so I have to manually go in and change the audio balance/fade so they can hear. I don't understand it at all.Leave a comment:
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Don’t forget, you can also sleep in the back of the van.
Might have to after the trunk idea.Leave a comment:
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Definetly check out the Pacifica Limited!
It is touchscreen and has a bunch of creature comforts for
driver and passenger.
To give you some reference here is a sample of the cars I have recently owned:
Lexus GX460
MB GL550
BMW M5
BMW X5
BMW M3
I have a 2019 BMW M5 competion on order.
And I think the Pacifica is nice enough for its intended purpose.
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Trying to convince my wife to trade in the Highlander hybrid for an Odyssey.
The Highlander has the worst climate control system I’ve seen. The touchscreen is clunky. I don’t believe cars should have touch screens, period. Also even though it has a lot of horsepower owing to the ICE + two electric motors, you can’t exactly enjoy it with the amount of body roll it has. Add leather seats and you’re sliding all over the place if you take a tight turn. That said, there’s decent noise isolation, which was one of my big concerns. I wonder how the Odyssey fares in comparison.
My 2016 odyssey climate controls are not touch screen but not intuitive. I feel like it has to have had singlehandedly caused crashes. The user interface for audio is even worse and is touchscreen. But I still love the van for capacity and driveability.Leave a comment:
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Let’s confuse this “fun to drive” issue with some more facts.
Skidpad grip is a reasonable barometer of a vehicle’s handling prowess.
2016 Toyota 4Runner (body on frame SUV)
0.71g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-toyota-4runner-review
2017 Chevy Tahoe Z71 (body on frame SUV)
0.72g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-chevrolet-tahoe-z71-4wd-test-review
2017 Toyota Highlander AWD (unibody SUV)
0.79g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-toyota-highlander-v-6-awd-test-review
2014 BMW X5 (sporty unibody SUV)
0.81g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-bmw-x5-xdrive35i-test-review
2017 Chrysler Pacifica (minivan)
0.81g
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chrysler/pacifica/2017/2017-chrysler-pacifica-limited-first-test-review/
Obviously none of these are sports cars, but goes to show SUVs are generally dogs in the handling department. A sporty hatchback like a VW GTI is about 0.92g and a Corvette Grand Sport is around 1.18g.
First, it's not fun to drive any of those cars fast. That's not what they're meant for. Arguably I could see some guy telling himself that his X5 is some "ultimate driving machine" sportscar, but nobody is going corner carving in their Highlander or their Pacifica. Skidpad numbers are meaningless for cars like this.
Second, the Jeep Wrangler would fare even worse than the 4Rrunner on the skidpad, but it's one of the most fun vehicles to drive and people love them. Same thing with that 4Runner- it's terrible around corners but fun to drive even around town, and likewise it has an enthusiast following.Leave a comment:
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Trying to convince my wife to trade in the Highlander hybrid for an Odyssey.
The Highlander has the worst climate control system I've seen. The touchscreen is clunky. I don't believe cars should have touch screens, period. Also even though it has a lot of horsepower owing to the ICE + two electric motors, you can't exactly enjoy it with the amount of body roll it has. Add leather seats and you're sliding all over the place if you take a tight turn. That said, there's decent noise isolation, which was one of my big concerns. I wonder how the Odyssey fares in comparison.Leave a comment:
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Great discussion so far... how about the best of both worlds? Retro cool, lots of space, configurable and still below 50K? I.D. Buzz
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/volkswagen-id-buzz-ev-concept-photos-and-info-news
Coming in 2022 (3 years from now, perfect timing for us
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You are right, but get anywhere close to 0.70 lateral g’s with the kids and spouse on board and you will be sleeping on the couch!
Who loves you more unconditionally, your spouse or your dog?
Well, put one of them in the trunk without telling why, drive around for 2-3 hours, then open the trunk and see who's still happy to see you! Obviously, your dog loves you more unconditionally than your husband / wife.Leave a comment:
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Let’s confuse this “fun to drive” issue with some more facts.
Skidpad grip is a reasonable barometer of a vehicle’s handling prowess.
2016 Toyota 4Runner (body on frame SUV)
0.71g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-toyota-4runner-review
2017 Chevy Tahoe Z71 (body on frame SUV)
0.72g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-chevrolet-tahoe-z71-4wd-test-review
2017 Toyota Highlander AWD (unibody SUV)
0.79g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-toyota-highlander-v-6-awd-test-review
2014 BMW X5 (sporty unibody SUV)
0.81g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-bmw-x5-xdrive35i-test-review
2017 Chrysler Pacifica (minivan)
0.81g
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chrysler/pacifica/2017/2017-chrysler-pacifica-limited-first-test-review/
Obviously none of these are sports cars, but goes to show SUVs are generally dogs in the handling department. A sporty hatchback like a VW GTI is about 0.92g and a Corvette Grand Sport is around 1.18g.
You are right, but get anywhere close to 0.70 lateral g’s with the kids and spouse on board and you will be sleeping on the couch!
"Hey guys...you know those times when we don't tell mom about something?! This is one of those times!"Leave a comment:
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2017 Chrysler Pacifica (minivan)
0.81g
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chrysler/pacifica/2017/2017-chrysler-pacifica-limited-first-test-review/
Obviously none of these are sports cars, but goes to show SUVs are generally dogs in the handling department. A sporty hatchback like a VW GTI is about 0.92g and a Corvette Grand Sport is around 1.18g.
Where do you sign up to be the one that gets to test all these cars? It'd be especially fun to hot rod mini-vans around, although I'm not sure if I could actually wear a helmet inside of one.Leave a comment:
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Let’s confuse this “fun to drive” issue with some more facts.
Skidpad grip is a reasonable barometer of a vehicle’s handling prowess.
2016 Toyota 4Runner (body on frame SUV)
0.71g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-toyota-4runner-review
2017 Chevy Tahoe Z71 (body on frame SUV)
0.72g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-chevrolet-tahoe-z71-4wd-test-review
2017 Toyota Highlander AWD (unibody SUV)
0.79g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-toyota-highlander-v-6-awd-test-review
2014 BMW X5 (sporty unibody SUV)
0.81g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-bmw-x5-xdrive35i-test-review
2017 Chrysler Pacifica (minivan)
0.81g
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chrysler/pacifica/2017/2017-chrysler-pacifica-limited-first-test-review/
Obviously none of these are sports cars, but goes to show SUVs are generally dogs in the handling department. A sporty hatchback like a VW GTI is about 0.92g and a Corvette Grand Sport is around 1.18g.
You are right, but get anywhere close to 0.70 lateral g's with the kids and spouse on board and you will be sleeping on the couch!Leave a comment:
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Let's confuse this "fun to drive" issue with some more facts.
Skidpad grip is a reasonable barometer of a vehicle's handling prowess.
2016 Toyota 4Runner (body on frame SUV)
0.71g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-toyota-4runner-review
2017 Chevy Tahoe Z71 (body on frame SUV)
0.72g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-chevrolet-tahoe-z71-4wd-test-review
2017 Toyota Highlander AWD (unibody SUV)
0.79g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-toyota-highlander-v-6-awd-test-review
2014 BMW X5 (sporty unibody SUV)
0.81g
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-bmw-x5-xdrive35i-test-review
2017 Chrysler Pacifica (minivan)
0.81g
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chrysler/pacifica/2017/2017-chrysler-pacifica-limited-first-test-review/
Obviously none of these are sports cars, but goes to show SUVs are generally dogs in the handling department. A sporty hatchback like a VW GTI is about 0.92g and a Corvette Grand Sport is around 1.18g.Leave a comment:
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