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  • Originally posted by burritos

    Hasn't that always been the case?

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    An oil embargo imposed by members of the Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries (OAPEC) led to fuel shortages and sky-high prices throughout much of the 1970s.





    Just a thought. Maybe we shouldn't be such pigs? Though smarter people than me could rationalize that that 4.23% of the population is entitled to igniting 20% of the fossil fuels.

    I'm not a Christian but maybe paying attention to the top 2 deadly sins might help things?


    Sorry, I like to be sanctimonious.
    What’s your argument against 4% using 20% of a certain good?

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    • Originally posted by VentAlarm

      What’s your argument against 4% using 20% of a certain good?
      I'm ok with it. But I'm selfish.

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      • The irony of the domestic oil production that we have. We actually have the good light sweet crude. What we lack is the sour crappy oil and that happens to be in political sensitive areas like Sudan and Venezuela. We don't need middle east oil -- our asian allies do.

        Biden has the likelihood of killing the oil industry as much as Trump had the likelihood of actually building a physical wall across our southern border-- that's red meat for their own constituents.

        We have plenty of domestic production and if leveraged right, plenty for energy independence beyond the foreseeable future. ​

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        • Originally posted by StarTrekDoc
          The irony of the domestic oil production that we have. We actually have the good light sweet crude. What we lack is the sour crappy oil and that happens to be in political sensitive areas like Sudan and Venezuela. We don't need middle east oil -- our asian allies do.

          Biden has the likelihood of killing the oil industry as much as Trump had the likelihood of actually building a physical wall across our southern border-- that's red meat for their own constituents.

          We have plenty of domestic production and if leveraged right, plenty for energy independence beyond the foreseeable future. ​
          And yet, we’ve used 40% of our oil reserves under Biden and failed to allow oil leases…

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          • Originally posted by StarTrekDoc

            No doubt it's all about insecurities and blame others for the problems of today. That's the ugly underbelly side of America that's been there for generations and always lurking around.

            what sets America apart from other democracies is that we have in our past recognized our minorities and actually defended them as a nation. That unique stance has shifted recently.
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            Depends on perspective. For some too fast, for others too slow. The merit approach has served this country well. There will always be insecurities, that is human.

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            • Originally posted by VentAlarm

              And yet, we’ve used 40% of our oil reserves under Biden and failed to allow oil leases…
              Do we really need that high of strategic oil reserves when we have sufficient domestic production? Like keeping EF at 6months 10 years into a steady cashflow positive situation and healthy reserves.

              Also why new oil leases when lots of current leases not even being started? Plenty of held leases on the basins and drilling rigs holding back despite good prices.

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              • Originally posted by Tim
                Depends on perspective. For some too fast, for others too slow. The merit approach has served this country well. There will always be insecurities, that is human.
                True on insecurities, it's human nature; yet we shouldn't embrace the worst part of us, shouldn't we? We've been better together than not.

                Time again America flourishes more as a whole than divided.

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                • Originally posted by StarTrekDoc

                  Do we really need that high of strategic oil reserves when we have sufficient domestic production? Like keeping EF at 6months 10 years into a steady cashflow positive situation and healthy reserves.

                  Also why new oil leases when lots of current leases not even being started? Plenty of held leases on the basins and drilling rigs holding back despite good prices.
                  The proofs in the pudding. Every president in the past 40 years thought we needed higher levels of oil reserves. If we were so flush with oil, why would prices be at an all-time seasonal high and reserves be at a 40 year low (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gasol...150412734.html).

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                  • Originally posted by VentAlarm

                    The proofs in the pudding. Every president in the past 40 years thought we needed higher levels of oil reserves. If we were so flush with oil, why would prices be at an all-time seasonal high and reserves be at a 40 year low (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gasol...150412734.html).
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                    Trump sold off reserves in good years precovid, which I thought was a good idea;
                    Biden certainly tapped because of the Ukraine conflict and Russian oil embargo to Europe and our allies.

                    Political narratives are just that, political.

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                    • Originally posted by VentAlarm

                      The proofs in the pudding. Every president in the past 40 years thought we needed higher levels of oil reserves. If we were so flush with oil, why would prices be at an all-time seasonal high and reserves be at a 40 year low (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gasol...150412734.html).
                      The Strategic Oil Reserve is not and should not be about the supply/demand of the price of oil. It is to mitigate against risk of supply disruptions (natural or intentional). Not self inflicted hindrance of oil production.

                      “Whereas previous oil price shocks were primarily caused by physical disrup- tions of supply, the price run-up of 2007–08 was caused by strong demand confronting ​”

                      Oil supply is a critical strategic need of our interests. The USA has enemies.

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                      • Originally posted by Tim

                        The Strategic Oil Reserve is not and should not be about the supply/demand of the price of oil. It is to mitigate against risk of supply disruptions (natural or intentional). Not self inflicted hindrance of oil production.

                        “Whereas previous oil price shocks were primarily caused by physical disrup- tions of supply, the price run-up of 2007–08 was caused by strong demand confronting ​”

                        Oil supply is a critical strategic need of our interests. The USA has enemies.
                        I agree. Which is why is so perplexing we’re depleting our oil supply to sell to china and using it to lower gas prices around midterms.

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                        • Originally posted by StarTrekDoc

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                          Trump sold off reserves in good years precovid, which I thought was a good idea;
                          Biden certainly tapped because of the Ukraine conflict and Russian oil embargo to Europe and our allies.

                          Political narratives are just that, political.
                          if Biden tapped it because of the Ukraine war, why did he sell oil to china?

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                          • Why do politicians do what they do? Heck if I know.

                            Maybe perhaps even to make batteries

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                            • Europeans getting worried about low cost Chinese EVs. Upset that china is subsidizing EVs too much.
                              And Europe also has a low cost EV. Dacia Spring that starts at $22k (also made in china). Big changes happening in the auto-world.

                              The Dacia Spring is decisively Europe’s cheapest car, and one we’ve been trying to get our hands on for a very long time. And, at long last, we were able to ...


                              Currently, the baby SUV that seats four and measures just 147.2 inches long has a starting price of around $22,700 (20,800 Euro)





                              The European Commission says cheap electric vehicles from China are undercutting its auto industry and has launched an investigation into unfair trade practices.

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                              • WCICON24 EarlyBird
                                Anyone using electric scooters? Daughter has one. I took it to the park today. Too tired to bike this afternoon. Very convenience and enjoyable. Plus it doesn't need a lvl 2 charger.

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