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  • So, we purchased two gas stations (convenience stores) and the RV dealership. At the time, banks were just throwing money at people without much due diligence (it seemed like) so it was very easy for us to get 100% loans to purchase these businesses. The first year, no problems. I did not make any money and was told this was because of the need to streamline processes. The second year, I was asked to invest $120k for expanded inventory. I did. Not long after that, my friend quits his CEO job (making $175,000/yr) so he can “focus on the business”. I was ok with that because I thought it was best he devote his time to these new business ventures……later, I would find out he had been fired. That year, surprise surprise, my partner reported he made an income of $120,000 to pay for his full time management of the business. 
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    I have invested in a couple of startup that have not gone as well as I expected. I have learned something from it that I used to apply to cash generating businesses like gas station with attached convenience store or its sibling, the liquor store.

    First have a proper legal agreement on the partnership, each person’s share and contribution and how much is each person responsible for the loan. Make sure that the banking at a bank is done where you know the bank. Have statements come to you each month, no exceptions. You should have the option to check the transactions and balances online any time. A copy of the daily sales should come to you by email every day. A copy of the invoices should be sent to you whenever purchases are made. You won’t have time to look at every daily report or transaction but even glancing at them and going through the monthly bank statement each month will give you an idea if there is funds as expected from the income and expenses. Have a quarterly meeting to discuss the income, expense and profits and see if it matches the bank records.

    Any check over a certain amount should require your signature in addition to the manager / other partner for it to be valid. By taking precautions one can run a successful small business like a gas station, liquor store, laundromat etc. But leaving it to someone and not having any records is inviting trouble and embezzlement.
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    These are all excellent lessons I have learned.......unfortunately, through this bad life experience.

     

    Even though we were supposed 50/50 partners in the businesses, the bank had zero interest in going after him to pay down the bank loans. We had both personally guaranteed them. He eventually filed for bankruptcy protection but the bank was only interested in coming after me, even before he filed for Chapter 7.  The bank said it was because our income difference was so large, they felt I was the "low hanging fruit" and it would be easier to expect me to pay off the loan amounts.

    So, after that experience, another friend wanted me to help him open a restaraunt franchise a few years later. I said no but I still listened to his proposition. What ended any possibility of a deal was when I told him I would not get a loan from the bank unless the bank would allow me to ONLY be responsible for my 50% proportion. Of course they told him "no" and I said "there's no way in ************************ IM going down that road again".

    Whats interesting is, in my medical practice, our loans (for real estate) are set up like that with the bank. For instance, we just purchased a $2M property. My loan documents allow for 20% responsibity if my partners were to default and I am left holding the bag

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    • After getting burned, and I mean burned (7 figure losses), I became friends with the new private placement manager for a family office managing several billion dollars.  He had just reviewed the performance of the private placement portion of the office for the last 10 years.  Average annual return rate at that time ? A stunning negative 2.3 %!  It made me think, if they can't do it with all the money and connections they have there is no way I could.  Since then, I have invested solely in stocks and am grateful for my returns.  Warren has it correct "Don't lose the money"

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      • A. paying full retail for Kuhl pants the day before they went on sale

        B. Monday morning quarterbacking, like not buying Microsoft at the IPO, not buying a New York City brownstone in the 80’s, not buying Enron puts in the 90’s, not taking job B over job A, and other decisions where the outcome is hardly a given at the time of decision but, in retrospect obvious, really does not even fall into the mistake category, IMO. And when you throw in things like “not marrying a billionaire heir(ess)* or not picking the Powerball numbers correctly, it’s really getting thick around here
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        A. You haven't lived until you've accumulated some Kuhl pants, shorts, and shirts at the sale price.

        B. If not making tons of money with some retrospectively obvious decision is a "financial mistake" then we've all made an infinite number of them, lol.

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        • So, after that experience, another friend wanted me to help him open a restaraunt franchise a few years later. I said no but I still listened to his proposition. What ended any possibility of a deal was when I told him I would not get a loan from the bank unless the bank would allow me to ONLY be responsible for my 50% proportion. Of course they told him “no” and I said “there’s no way in ************************ IM going down that road again”.
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          Restaurant franchise is not a great idea. Too must wastage at the end of the day. Lot of cash transactions which leads to cheating by the staff. Many wait staff don't show up unexpectedly. Chefs quit without notice. Maybe a franchise may be more standardized but even there the returns are not great unless you can devote full time and energy to it.

          For large loans the banks now want every person signing on the loan to be responsible for 100% of the loan. We make sure that we have the people who co sign for the loan be just three, have worked together before and have sufficient assets and know each other for decades. It also helps that the other two are far wealthier than me. The main reason I am included is that the banks prefer one person to be not in the hospitality business and having a physician practice with separate income stream be one of the guarantors somehow reassures them to hand out $7-10M loans.

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