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  • Kennyt7
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    As if every American is 100% honest on their tax returns

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  • The White Coat Investor
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    Originally posted by Kennyt7 View Post
    What about those payments on I PADS where its 18% and up
    Just leave cash as its tax free we hope
    You HOPE that your fellow tax payers cheat on their taxes? Interesting.

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  • Hank
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    Originally posted by uksho View Post
    I have tipping fatigue too

    question: dinner for a group , 20 % service charge already included in bill . Will you tip on top of that ?

    bought a small pack for chips for couple of dollars at airport . Employee Turns the screen towards me with tip options . I declined

    do we have to tip for everything now ? Prices have gone up already .

    Pack of overpriced potato chips at the airport? No tip.

    You set an automatic tip of 15% to 20%? Fine, that's exactly what you get unless it was really awesome service.

    Are you presumptuous enough to set an automatic tip greater than 20%? Yeah, that's going to get adjusted below 20% unless things were pretty darned fabulous.

    I don't mind tipping for fishing guides, sherpas, bartenders, table service at a restaurant, housekeepers at a hotel, etc. I don't object to having a range of "recommended tip" calculations at the bottom of the bill, although anything 30%+ seems egregious. However, automatically adding a "voluntary" tip greater than 20% that you need to talk with the manager or shift supervisor to reduce or eliminate is just absurd.

    While I begrudgingly see the point to a clearly disclosed surcharge for parties of eight or more at a seated venue, I just don't like the aggressive grabbiness of 20%+ automatic gratuity for a small party and then expecting more tipping / surcharges on top of that. At that point, I might as well get rolled tacos or burritos to go, grab some beer, a bottle of wine or champagne, and go to an outdoor venue with a far better view for a picnic.

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  • MaxPower
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    Originally posted by uksho View Post
    I have tipping fatigue too

    question: dinner for a group , 20 % service charge already included in bill . Will you tip on top of that ?
    100% no. That’s the included tip.

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  • uksho
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    I have tipping fatigue too

    question: dinner for a group , 20 % service charge already included in bill . Will you tip on top of that ?

    bought a small pack for chips for couple of dollars at airport . Employee Turns the screen towards me with tip options . I declined

    do we have to tip for everything now ? Prices have gone up already .


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  • xraygoggles
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    Tipping for most services you frequent is fine and expected - like barbershop, restaurant, delivery, Uber, etc.

    But the option to tip at every coffeeshop or take out place is kinda annoying. Unless you go to the same local cafe often, then it prolly makes sense to tip them regularly since it's a friendly face and you have some rapport.

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  • Tim
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    Originally posted by TheDangerZone View Post
    This is an aside but do you guys tip based on the post-tax total or the pre-tax total? I grew up in a no sales tax state and once I moved, it always rubbed me the wrong way to tip based on the post-tax total.

    25% tip example:
    Pre tax/no tax: Dinner = $100, tip $25, grand total $125
    Post tax: Dinner $100, tax $10, tip $27.5, grand total $137.5

    It's like I'm tipping the staff even more simply because I had the privilege of having my meal taxed. Now I understand post-tax total is how most people do it and it's just a few bucks so I follow along, but it's never made sense to me. Maybe someone here has a take on this that does.
    My wife would (and does) tip 2x sales tax or in your example : $20/20%. Done.

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  • pierre
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    Originally posted by Kennyt7 View Post
    What about those payments on I PADS where its 18% and up
    Just leave cash as its tax free we hope


    slightly inappropriate

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  • SerrateAndDominate
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    Originally posted by TheDangerZone View Post
    This is an aside but do you guys tip based on the post-tax total or the pre-tax total? I grew up in a no sales tax state and once I moved, it always rubbed me the wrong way to tip based on the post-tax total.

    25% tip example:
    Pre tax/no tax: Dinner = $100, tip $25, grand total $125
    Post tax: Dinner $100, tax $10, tip $27.5, grand total $137.5

    It's like I'm tipping the staff even more simply because I had the privilege of having my meal taxed. Now I understand post-tax total is how most people do it and it's just a few bucks so I follow along, but it's never made sense to me. Maybe someone here has a take on this that does.
    I go off the pretax amount. Baseline is 20% at a sit down restaurant, but we rarely dine out. Takeout is 10% for the most part. As for other places/situations, I do overpay the house cleaning lady. Christmas bonus for her and yard guy

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  • CordMcNally
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    Originally posted by Kennyt7 View Post
    What about those payments on I PADS where its 18% and up
    Just leave cash as its tax free we hope
    Select ‘Other’.

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  • Kennyt7
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    What about those payments on I PADS where its 18% and up
    Just leave cash as its tax free we hope

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  • Random1
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    I think what has changed is the newer charge card machines that automatically add the recommended tip. The easy answer, is to pay with cash.

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  • MaxPower
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    Why tip someone for something I’m capable of doing myself? I can deliver food. I can drive a taxi. I can, and do, cut my own hair.

    After reading this thread I didn’t tip at Voodoo Donuts when they brought the online order out to my car, nor at the airport place where I gathered my own overpriced drinks and overpriced chicken Caesar salad and carried it to the cash register. I did, however, tip ~18% pre-tax for a meal out at a restaurant. I usually tip 20% but my water went unfilled for over 10 minutes, even after asking, and half of our meals were served with cold items on them that were supposed to be hot. Not the end of the world, but also not great service.

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  • burritos
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    10 year old study from Harvard citing that the more tipping there is the more corrupt that society is:



    I suspect most Harvard people don't end up in jobs that has tipping. So uber rationalization against optional trickle-down.

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  • dayman
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    I was tipping for carry-out during COVID but have mostly stopped. Maybe a couple of bucks here and there at places I frequent.

    I do tip well at sit down restaurants. If you give good service and are nice to my children, you're getting 30%. Granted we mostly go to places in our neighborhood - I have a vested interest in the place two blocks away staying in business.

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