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Originally posted by Zaphod View Post
Exactly, never cam from anywhere.
Shocked, and super dismayed a bunch of doctors having such a serious discussion about an obviously not important topic. This is some kind of wives tale old marketing, and taken as true on its face cuz we grew up with it? Crazy.
As Dr. Glaucof nephrologist character says, "do you not trust your kidneys"?
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Originally posted by Kamban View Post
If you think about it, the recommendation was utter nonsense. When did humans get dehydrated doing daily activities and needed to be carrying the extra bottles of water all day long and sipping on it when clinical and blood tests showed they were not dehydrated. Most were not running marathons or gardening in the hot sun. But it helped drive up those water bottle sales.
Sometimes when I see the people carrying a humongous bottle of water from house to work to every other place and chugging on it I wonder if they truly have gotten locked in syndrome from the hyponatremia :-)
Shocked, and super dismayed a bunch of doctors having such a serious discussion about an obviously not important topic. This is some kind of wives tale old marketing, and taken as true on its face cuz we grew up with it? Crazy.
As Dr. Glaucof nephrologist character says, "do you not trust your kidneys"?Last edited by Zaphod; 09-30-2022, 07:54 AM.
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Originally posted by burritos View Post
Drink when you're thirsty. Everyone is different, particularly older people. Just drinking water-especially more than what you need-makes you lose sodium. "Drink x cups/day" is BS based on studies done a jillion years ago done on three people but spread as medical dogma. Drinking water makes you lose weight only applies if you are replace soda with it.
Sometimes when I see the people carrying a humongous bottle of water from house to work to every other place and chugging on it I wonder if they truly have gotten locked in syndrome from the hyponatremia :-)
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Originally posted by Kamban View Post
What is the TL ; DR on that episode? Drink or not bother measuring that amount religiously and do as you always had.
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Originally posted by burritos View Posthttps://www.npr.org/2022/09/20/11241...ou-really-need
In case you want to expand what you know. Or not.
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The water advice is everywhere - how much to drink (8 cups a day - really?), what to drink, when to drink, and all its benefits. On this episode we produced with our colleagues at Life Kit, hosts Aaron Scott and Emily Kwong take some cherished hydration beliefs and get to the reality behind the science of hydration and the actual best ways to quench our thirst.
In case you want to expand what you know. Or not.
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Originally posted by tomsre View PostI didn't realize so many people walk around somewhat intentionally dehydrated. 😄
IMHO, a little bit of stress make you a bit stronger. Our hominid ancestors did not have water and food 24/7 and they survived 3 million years. I think we still have 99.9% of their genes.
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I drink at least (4) of the 16.9 oz water bottles with crystal light every day, plus one 12 oz diet Mountain Dew or Dr Pepper Zero, and at least one glass of OJ or milk/chocolate milk per day when I’m not working, and then it’s a 20 oz DMD or Diet Coke/Dr Pepper because that’s what they have at work.
I had a kidney stone about 4 years ago after a super long revision humerus ORIF case (wearing lead, hot lights, standing up, trying to find that bast*rd radial nerve for hours) followed by a meal at a local place of fries and a roast beef sandwich with au jus, then woke up at about 5 am with the worst pain of my life. I never want to repeat that again so I drink lots of fluids. I also feel nauseated when I’m dehydrated. Now when I start to feel that way I chug a bottle of crystal light and usually feel better within 15-20 minutes. In college when I was playing tennis is used to vomit copiously and repetitively from dehydration, but didn’t figure it out until years later.
I have an aversion to water that started after I started having symptoms of ulcerative colitis. I was so dehydrated from that, and drinking so much water (but not really replacing any electrolytes in the process) that it made me (more) ill. Now whenever I think about water, I just almost can’t bring myself to drink it. The only exception is when we are eating out, which we don’t do often. If we are sitting down to a nice meal at a restaurant, I’ll drink water most of the time and be fine. Weird stuff.
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I didn't realize so many people walk around somewhat intentionally dehydrated. 😄
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I stopped drinking coke, then coke zero about 5 years ago and switched to soda water. I currently have a soda stream at work that we hacked to run off a 20lb CO2 tank. I fill the soda stream bottle from the 5 gallon water jug and carbonate the water so that it's super bubbly, Topo Chico carbonation levels. I have 5 or 6 of these through out the day, so 6L there. I also have a ALDI LaCroix (Belle Vie or something like that) for breakfast or on my drive into work. In the evenings, I have a few beers, so lots of liquids for me. I've been that way my whole life.
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Originally posted by burritos View PostIf you have kidney stones then yes a lot a water helps prevent them. But my contention is that kidney stones are often from excess uric acid and oxalates as opposed to shortage of H20. Dogma purports that uric acids comes from purines from meats, but I believe(which I acknowledge is not the same thing as truth) that seeds are high in urates(so grains and hence ubiquitous). Also hepatic processing of fructose(and etoh) produces a lot of uric acid. Oxalates are found in grains and vegetables. Unlike uric acid, oxalates have no physiologic purpose for the human body.
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Originally posted by BruinBones View PostAgree. Therefore lately, I try to chug several ounces of water after each time I urinate so that I don’t get behind on my I/O’s. No joke.
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Originally posted by MPMD View Posti don't have a target
but the older i get the more i noticed when i am dehydrated, it just presents as fatigue rather than thirst…
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Originally posted by K82 View PostPrevious kidney stone. I drink 3L a day pretty religiously. The pain from a kidney stone can do that to a person. Also, I weigh 160 lbs and exercise regularly, nothing tastes as good to me when I'm thirsty than water.
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