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  • Originally posted by StateOfMyHead View Post
    It has been really nice for the past month but it looks like Europe is a mess so I guess only a matter of time before we are slammed again.
    Washington DC is might want to up it's resources.
    Abbott just announced a plan that has "enhanced safety inspections" and the release of the "new arrivals" to the CBP in DC. This will clog the border and the drop-off point will be DC rather than Texas. With no vaccines or testing, DC will have conservatively 500k or a 1M new people for their healthcare.
    https://www.click2houston.com/news/t...charter-buses/

    Just a version of "not in my backyard".

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    • https://news.yahoo.com/philadelphia-...183058603.html

      Philadelphia to restore indoor mask mandate effective 4/18/22.

      “If we fail to act now, knowing that every previous wave of infections has been followed by a wave of hospitalizations, and then a wave of deaths, it will be too late for many of our residents,” said Bettigole, noting about 750 Philadelphia residents died in the wintertime omicron outbreak. “This is our chance to get ahead of the pandemic, to put our masks on until we have more information about the severity of this new variant.”

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      • Originally posted by Tim View Post
        https://news.yahoo.com/philadelphia-...183058603.html

        Philadelphia to restore indoor mask mandate effective 4/18/22.

        “If we fail to act now, knowing that every previous wave of infections has been followed by a wave of hospitalizations, and then a wave of deaths, it will be too late for many of our residents,” said Bettigole, noting about 750 Philadelphia residents died in the wintertime omicron outbreak. “This is our chance to get ahead of the pandemic, to put our masks on until we have more information about the severity of this new variant.”
        I'd be curious what the citizens of Philadelphia think about this.

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        • Originally posted by CordMcNally View Post

          I'd be curious what the citizens of Philadelphia think about this.
          seems like an odd time with hospitalizations at near pandemic lows.. isn't death pretty much optional with jabs and paxlovid?

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          • Originally posted by triad View Post

            seems like an odd time with hospitalizations at near pandemic lows.. isn't death pretty much optional with jabs and paxlovid?
            Did they ever release all of the data for Paxlovid? I'm not aware if they have but COVID has pretty much fallen off a cliff so that's gone to the wayside.

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            • NNT for hospital for high risk is 15 in the original. No following study either and certainly not on omnicron which the NNT will certainly be significantly higher.

              Itll end up like how we use tamiflu I bet.

              The mask mandate helps a small bit still in packed areas. I'd Don one in an elevator or where poor ventilation remains unaddressed.

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              • We went to Disneyland just last week. Only time used a mask was indoor hallway queue for sorin'. Otherwise all mask free.

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                • Are we supposed to wear masks in clinics? I'm wearing it about 50% of the, based to patient preference.

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                  • 100% in clinic - system policy

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                    • Originally posted by triad View Post
                      seems like an odd time with hospitalizations at near pandemic lows.. isn't death pretty much optional with jabs and paxlovid?
                      I would hardly call death optional, with a national average of about 500 deaths/day.

                      The national average of cases/day are about the same as they were two (2) years ago when everyone was freaking out.

                      My state's average cases/day have jumped 50% in three weeks. Several cities the Northeast have jumped 100% in a short period of time

                      I wouldn't call it a surge just yet, but it appears we might be following the recent BA.2 surge in England, Germany and some other European countries.

                      What we have become is desensitized and seek to normalize still far too high numbers.

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                      • Originally posted by spiritrider View Post
                        I would hardly call death optional, with a national average of about 500 deaths/day.

                        The national average of cases/day are about the same as they were two (2) years ago when everyone was freaking out.

                        My state's average cases/day have jumped 50% in three weeks. Several cities the Northeast have jumped 100% in a short period of time

                        I wouldn't call it a surge just yet, but it appears we might be following the recent BA.2 surge in England, Germany and some other European countries.

                        What we have become is desensitized and seek to normalize still far too high numbers.
                        but aren't the vast majority of the deaths from people who chose not to get jabbed? Is paxlovid readily available? that is supposed to be 90% effective last I heard

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                        • •With all the home test kits, it is going to be difficult to track infections (positives/negatives).
                          • hospitalizations - (coincidental or cause)
                          •deaths - (coincidental or cause)
                          Vaccine, boosters, prior infection status for all cases. The absence of data is deafening.

                          As far as desensitization, is the problem the messaging or with the lack of data? It’s time for data, not political issues. The public is actually questioning how effective changing behavior really is. COVID seems flare up on it’s own, regardless of the mandates and how inconsistently they have been messaged.
                          Masks- one would think any mask requirement would have a standard by now.

                          Stay safe.



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                          • Originally posted by triad View Post

                            but aren't the vast majority of the deaths from people who chose not to get jabbed? Is paxlovid readily available? that is supposed to be 90% effective last I heard
                            Paxlovid is going to end up being like many of the other therapeutics. Touted as highly effective in press releases and then finally deemed to be nothing special 6-12 months later once they release all their data.

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                            • Originally posted by CordMcNally View Post

                              Paxlovid is going to end up being like many of the other therapeutics. Touted as highly effective in press releases and then finally deemed to be nothing special 6-12 months later once they release all their data.
                              https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/...s-paxlovid-and

                              Pfizer hopes you are incorrect.

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                              • Originally posted by Tim View Post
                                Of course they do. It's why we're seeing 'study results' in press releases while they delay the release of the complete data.

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