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Originally posted by CordMcNally View Post
Why don’t you just get a PCR test instead of holing your daughter up with mild non-specific URI symptoms? Or how come you don’t go somewhere else and let your daughter have a run of the house if you’re worried about it?
If you don't have a teenage daughter you probably don't understand why everyone is happier with this arrangement.
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Originally posted by FIREshrink View Post
PCR test is scheduled first available, which is 5 days out from when sx started; results 48+ hours puts us at 1 week from symptoms onset, completely useless.
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If you don't have a teenage daughter you probably don't understand why everyone is happier with this arrangement.
The money for testing supplies was diverted to other purposes. Just saying, this is a circus. You can't make this stuff up.
My condolences to every family that comes down with Omicron. I sincerely hope it turns out to be like a bad cold.
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Originally posted by snowcanyon View Post
Get boosted, that's for sure.
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Originally posted by Tim View Post
Serious question:
Does a booster actually increase the prevention of being infected by Omicron?
Does a booster actually decrease the severity of an infection by Omicron?
I understand it increases the presence of the strength of the level of vaccination, but my moronic question is what is actually the benefit specific to Omicron.
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Yes, the general advice is to get boosted. It definitely helps in hospitalizations over the two shot regimen.
Hindsight for this all is the proper initial inoculation is a three shot regimen to get to sufficient levels. ....think hep b.
The question that remains is whether a fourth shot/routine revised innoculations will be needed. The jury is still out on that. We simply don't know cause we're literally right in the middle of possible fourth shot benefits (Israel leading this at scale).
Tim. Definitely there is a lot of documentation to show the risk of hospitalizations and death for immunized is x14 + lower than unvaccinated.
The primary end points for all immunization are always death and hospitalizations with secondary as infections. People forget that original goals for the vaccine was an efficacy rate of 70% rate and we're very spoiled with the level of success against the initial virus.
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Originally posted by StarTrekDoc View PostYes, the general advice is to get boosted. It definitely helps in hospitalizations over the two shot regimen.
Hindsight for this all is the proper initial inoculation is a three shot regimen to get to sufficient levels. ....think hep b.
The question that remains is whether a fourth shot/routine revised innoculations will be needed. The jury is still out on that. We simply don't know cause we're literally right in the middle of possible fourth shot benefits (Israel leading this at scale).
Tim. Definitely there is a lot of documentation to show the risk of hospitalizations and death for immunized is x14 + lower than unvaccinated.
The primary end points for all immunization are always death and hospitalizations with secondary as infections. People forget that original goals for the vaccine was an efficacy rate of 70% rate and we're very spoiled with the level of success against the initial virus.
Some very good therapeutics.
It is almost like CDC or whomever followed "good is the enemy of better". Wrong choice. Only 2 laps of the mile race. Lack of attention to the development process from variant to delivery of vaccines and therapeutics. The race was not over. Over confidence and under delivery of version 2.5 and a lightning fast solution from point of identification to the population. A vaccine is not to be confused with a therapeutic.
The impression is the Warp Speed has gone back to the old 4 year methods. Bureaucracy at it's finest.
Over simplification, yes. No attention paid, money diverted without a whimper. Sometimes impatience is a virtue. Non existent. Better is the enemy of better.
Not with this threat to all the world. Remember when glass shortage was going to be a choke point? Let the young guns have a chance. It couldn't be more inept. The leadership is a problem. Messaging should not be the focal point, results count.
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Serious question…is this the wave that kills this thing? I’m to the point that all my staff are vaxxed or got immunity the hard way, with the final two un vaxxed currently positive (and symptomatic).
Is there a chance that by March we can say the population is fully exposed and life resumes something close to normal? Do masks go away soon?
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Originally posted by Tim View Post
Serious question:
Does a booster actually increase the prevention of being infected by Omicron?
Does a booster actually decrease the severity of an infection by Omicron?
I understand it increases the presence of the strength of the level of vaccination, but my moronic question is what is actually the benefit specific to Omicron.
For the middle aged and older, the booster lessens the severity of the symptoms to mild sniffles/ cold/ bodyache but prevents admits. ICU and deaths. I have a higher than average risk of severe illness due to my asthma. I have gotten a full dose 3rd vaccine when they were available and plan to get a 4th dose if I see some resurgence in March/April. I have had no side effects from the vaccine, so far.
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Originally posted by Molar Mechanic View PostSerious question…is this the wave that kills this thing? I’m to the point that all my staff are vaxxed or got immunity the hard way, with the final two un vaxxed currently positive (and symptomatic).
Is there a chance that by March we can say the population is fully exposed and life resumes something close to normal? Do masks go away soon?
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Originally posted by Tim View Post
Serious question:
Does a booster actually increase the prevention of being infected by Omicron?
Does a booster actually decrease the severity of an infection by Omicron?
I understand it increases the presence of the strength of the level of vaccination, but my moronic question is what is actually the benefit specific to Omicron.
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Originally posted by AR View Post
Yes to both. There is credible evidence to suggest that both of those things are true. Should take you 30 min at most on Google to find.
Current vaccines don’t prevent spread.and infection. That is what Pfizer and Moderns say.
Need a new vaccine. Working on it, data not available. Maybe in March. Google it? The current vaccines would not have been approved for Omicron. Low efficacy.
That doesn’t mean no benefit, just doesn’t prevent infection.
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Originally posted by Tim View PostWhat is the efficacy in percentages. The specific question is vaccinated preventing any COVID infection. Just saying, there are quite a few vaccinated people catching COVID. We would not have this surge if vaccinates actual prevention was any where near the FDA 50% minimum.
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