For clarity sake, I am talking about deciding who to give truly scarce treatment resources, monoclonals and oral covid antivirals.
You are confusing the reason for a fact with the fact itself. People of color do worse with COVID. This is a fact. They are more likely to die. You are making judgements about how this fact came to be. I am not. We give older people more priority, we give people with hypertension more priority, we give obese people more priority, we give people with diabetes more priority. It is also a fact that all those people are more likely to die. Do you say we are prejudiced against non-obese people, or younger people? You do not. You do understand it is not ethical to take each individual and say "hmm, I think this person's life is worth more" right? There is a scoring system. It includes factors that increase risk of death. You give meds to people with higher scores. No prejudice, no ethical problem. I said you could disagree all you want, but understand that your disagreement is from your feelings and not from logic or science. In fact, I haven't even given my opinion, merely stated that facts of the situation. Including significant risk factors in a non-judgemental way is science.
Also, "I have such and such family and friends" is never a useful thing to say. Who you are, who you know, and who you are related to has absolutely nothing to do with this area of discussion. I'm not questioning views on race, just pointing out the I am taking about facts and you are talking about feelings. Some of us probably have feelings about other risk factors (obesity anyone?) but that doesn't mean we shouldn't use them in evaluating who to treat. Oh, and data can't be racist.
You are confusing the reason for a fact with the fact itself. People of color do worse with COVID. This is a fact. They are more likely to die. You are making judgements about how this fact came to be. I am not. We give older people more priority, we give people with hypertension more priority, we give obese people more priority, we give people with diabetes more priority. It is also a fact that all those people are more likely to die. Do you say we are prejudiced against non-obese people, or younger people? You do not. You do understand it is not ethical to take each individual and say "hmm, I think this person's life is worth more" right? There is a scoring system. It includes factors that increase risk of death. You give meds to people with higher scores. No prejudice, no ethical problem. I said you could disagree all you want, but understand that your disagreement is from your feelings and not from logic or science. In fact, I haven't even given my opinion, merely stated that facts of the situation. Including significant risk factors in a non-judgemental way is science.
Also, "I have such and such family and friends" is never a useful thing to say. Who you are, who you know, and who you are related to has absolutely nothing to do with this area of discussion. I'm not questioning views on race, just pointing out the I am taking about facts and you are talking about feelings. Some of us probably have feelings about other risk factors (obesity anyone?) but that doesn't mean we shouldn't use them in evaluating who to treat. Oh, and data can't be racist.
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