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Originally posted by Kamban View Post
Rightly or wrongly, NYT has been considered a leftist leaning publication. It tends to highlight data when it supports it viewpoint and either not publish or bury things when it is in variance with its leanings. Plus it is being a paywall even it its COVID site might be free ( I have no idea).
That is what I said a COVID specific site posting just data with no bias or agenda and let people see. Some might still not believe it and that is a given. And I want specifically people who are sick enough to be hospitalized, in ICU or six feet under, not cases of COVID which can go up in both segments and has overall lesser value.
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Originally posted by billy View PostI'm very pro vaccine, but I question the utility of a 4th vaccine booster of the same shot... If it's to protect from variants, shouldn't we be "boosting" with more variant specific vaccines a la the flu shot? (this was in reference to moderna's ceo in the news).
If all you have is a shot gun vs a dedicated rifle, use the shot gun. If Omicron was more deadly they will be certainly switching already. Fortunately, it's not
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Originally posted by FIREshrink View PostYou mean like CDC or covidactnow?
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Originally posted by Kamban View Post
Rightly or wrongly, NYT has been considered a leftist leaning publication. It tends to highlight data when it supports it viewpoint and either not publish or bury things when it is in variance with its leanings. Plus it is being a paywall even it its COVID site might be free ( I have no idea).
That is what I said a COVID specific site posting just data with no bias or agenda and let people see. Some might still not believe it and that is a given. And I want specifically people who are sick enough to be hospitalized, in ICU or six feet under, not cases of COVID which can go up in both segments and has overall lesser value.
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Originally posted by Kamban View Post
Rightly or wrongly, NYT has been considered a leftist leaning publication. It tends to highlight data when it supports it viewpoint and either not publish or bury things when it is in variance with its leanings. Plus it is being a paywall even it its COVID site might be free ( I have no idea).
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I have a friend who makes the same claim about mainstream media burying all kinds of topics and so far for every single thing he's claimed got covered up there's been a story in both the Washington Post and the NY Times on that very thing - and usually multiple stories each.
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Originally posted by billy View PostI'm very pro vaccine, but I question the utility of a 4th vaccine booster of the same shot... If it's to protect from variants, shouldn't we be "boosting" with more variant specific vaccines a la the flu shot? (this was in reference to moderna's ceo in the news).
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Originally posted by Shant View PostI have a friend who makes the same claim about mainstream media burying all kinds of topics and so far for every single thing he's claimed got covered up there's been a story in both the Washington Post and the NY Times on that very thing - and usually multiple stories each.
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Originally posted by AR View Post
Do you have any actual examples of this?
The resignation of Bari Weiss because she felt free speech was not allowed is pretty good evidence of bias.
Her first book, "How to Fight Anti-Semitism," was a Natan Notable Book and the winner of a 2019 National Jewish Book Award.
As a Columbia University graduate from NY, who happens to be a liberal Jewish lesbian journalist, I would say her calling them out as too far left and closed minded is enough evidence for me.
That and about every article they write.
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Originally posted by AR View Post
No. My question was much narrower than that. Go look at the part I bolded. Kanban was talking about "data" being "buried".
In her resignation letter she hints at this and in her interviews she describes multiple cases in detail of this very activity.
She worked there and it is why she resigned, so she should know.
She has a several long interviews on multiple podcasts, but I don't think you are really interested in hearing her describe this as it would not fit with your formed opinion of the NYT.
I provided some links for you if you want to hear another opinion. This one is a great interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFTA9MJZ4KY
This is her resignation letter:
Nevertheless, I apologize for getting off the main subject and perhaps getting too close to a political discussion. I will cease and desist. have a good night.
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Originally posted by Tangler View Post
Oh, Ok, "not publish or bury things "
I had already seen most of the stuff you've linked about Weiss and my opinion has already taken those things into account. I suppose I could go on at length at the numerous flaws and inconsistencies in what she says (about this and other topics), but as you say, this isn't the place.
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Looks like New York released their breakdown of COVID admissions and 57% of those admitted with COVID was because of COVID and/or COVID related complications. 43% were admitted for other reasons. I wish they would have been producing this data earlier because I strongly suspect those numbers would have been heavily shifted to COVID being the primary reason for admission with previous surges.
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