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  • Moderna#1+ #2 mild arm soreness only
    Pfizer #3 zero, not even sore. Maybe it didn’t work.

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    • Originally posted by xraygoggles View Post
      The data out so far about various cities, hospitals, companies etc. mandating vaccines for their employees has been reassuring. Lot of empty threats & paper tigers: very few people actually follow through on their threats of quitting/leaving a job or state. Compliance has been increasing at a rapid rate - good to see.

      Now CA will mandate all schoolchildren be vaccinated, once approved by FDA. Wonder how that will fare.
      This is a messed up process.
      • FDA approves the vaccine 10/14-10/15 meeting
      • CDC the has a second shot for recommendations. Not scheduled.
      • Entities decide whether or not to adopt CDC recommendations.
      Leading science, not following science.
      Actually, give each teacher enough vaccines, jab the upper arm, push the needle and pull it out. Kids are like cattle, round em up and vaccinate em! Done by first period. Ask fo forgiveness later. What could go wrong?
      A clear efficient process, vaccinate kids.
      Done be noon. What’s the FDA gonna do? Takeover California? Geez.

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      • Originally posted by eyecandy View Post
        Also, are you guys mixing/matching pfizer/moderna, or sticking with the same?
        Took Pfizer 1st and 2nd in Dec/Jan. Took Moderna for 3rd as it has better efficacy against Delta and there was possibility of me visiting the country where this variant started and still has a significant presence.

        Nothing for 24 hours. Fever to 102.8 and mild fatigue but no chills or major body aches between 24th and 36th hour. Took one Tylenol on the 2nd night and by the 3rd day morning I was fine. Did not miss any work .

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        • I asked this question earlier, but here’s some data I heard about my hospital system on numbers with the latest surge. 33% mortality for patients admitted to the hospital with Covid. 50% mortality for patients admitted to the ICU with covid. 86 vaccinated patients admitted with covid, and only 1 death from the vaccinated cohort. Unsure on that patient’s co-morbidities.

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          • Originally posted by MaxPower View Post
            I asked this question earlier, but here’s some data I heard about my hospital system on numbers with the latest surge. 33% mortality for patients admitted to the hospital with Covid. 50% mortality for patients admitted to the ICU with covid. 86 vaccinated patients admitted with covid, and only 1 death from the vaccinated cohort. Unsure on that patient’s co-morbidities.
            Is that confirmed data or just heard through the grapevine? Those mortality rates seem incredibly high.

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            • https://finance.yahoo.com/video/merc...hssrp_catchall

              1. Treatments
              The pill might be an improvement. Any thoughts?
              2. Vaccines
              Educate me here. The only vaccine requirement I have ever heard about is Flu shot for healthcare workers. Physical exams possible in all others but that seems to be work related physical and now primarily drug screening. Possibly heart screening for physical jobs. The protections seemed to be to require (gov, education and employers to provide physical accommodations). Open for corrections. You guys do the exams and screening.TB?

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              • Originally posted by CordMcNally View Post

                Is that confirmed data or just heard through the grapevine? Those mortality rates seem incredibly high.
                Yeah, we're a tertiary/quad system and even our numbers pale to those mortality rates decimal misplaced perhaps at the very least.

                Our vaccinated hosp still stands 15-20% total admits -- 0% ICU -- that's held pretty consistent throughout Delta. Overall covid census has been waning past three weeks.



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                • The hospital system I work with doesn't give us that degree of breakdown. They have told us that 87% of the COVID admissions are unvaccinated. We've been at a plateau for about 4 weeks now, not really going up or down.

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                  • Originally posted by Tim View Post
                    2. Vaccines
                    Educate me here. The only vaccine requirement I have ever heard about is Flu shot for healthcare workers.
                    Most of the vaccines are required as a condition to do your training and do not need booster shots. You don't hear about the other vaccines because people who really don't want to get them choose a more appropriate occupation before they start their training.

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                    • Originally posted by CordMcNally View Post

                      Is that confirmed data or just heard through the grapevine? Those mortality rates seem incredibly high.
                      Depends on who is getting admitted. Anybody who comes to the ED here and is on <6LPM O2 gets sent home with oxygen, a pulse ox, IV remdesivir, dex, and instructions on when to return. We simply don't have the beds to keep anybody who can survive at home. It's unspoken rationing, but we have 48 hour ED holds on vented patients as it is.

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                      • Originally posted by pulmdoc View Post

                        Depends on who is getting admitted. Anybody who comes to the ED here and is on <6LPM O2 gets sent home with oxygen, a pulse ox, IV remdesivir, dex, and instructions on when to return. We simply don't have the beds to keep anybody who can survive at home. It's unspoken rationing, but we have 48 hour ED holds on vented patients as it is.
                        A majority of hospitals aren't doing what your hospital is doing. Besides, even with discharging those patients, that wouldn't affect your ICU mortality and I'd be very hard pressed to not believe that the admission mortality is still 33%.

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                        • Originally posted by Shant View Post

                          Most of the vaccines are required as a condition to do your training and do not need booster shots. You don't hear about the other vaccines because people who really don't want to get them choose a more appropriate occupation before they start their training.
                          I understand that healthcare has some specific requirements, probably for most licensed professionals (including nurses,NP's etc.) Additionally professionals (not sure about the others) now typically have a flu vaccine requirement.
                          No other company I have ever encountered actually requires a flu vaccine or any other. The point is that this vaccine seems to be the only one required by any employer excluding the above. I suppose you could count the military as a different segment. I have not idea of those requirements.
                          My point is HHS seems to have completely ignored everything else. This is the ONLY one that matters. Curious public health policy based on the risks.Their statement is not in the scope of healthcare. It is a blanket exception, not a word on any other vaccine. No list of vaccines require for employment in schools or private businesses.
                          This seems to be a brand new requirement in the private world for adults. This is neither pro or against, why are other vaccines important for the general public to the point they are restricted? If vaccines are required, so be it. Do it directly.

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                          • Originally posted by MaxPower View Post
                            I asked this question earlier, but here’s some data I heard about my hospital system on numbers with the latest surge. 33% mortality for patients admitted to the hospital with Covid. 50% mortality for patients admitted to the ICU with covid. 86 vaccinated patients admitted with covid, and only 1 death from the vaccinated cohort. Unsure on that patient’s co-morbidities.
                            Those numbers sound closer to Ebola than to Covid-19

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                            • Originally posted by CordMcNally View Post

                              Is that confirmed data or just heard through the grapevine? Those mortality rates seem incredibly high.
                              We had similar stats at my local level II hospital. 20% mortality for admitted with Covid, 50% for ICU, ~80% if on the vent.

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                              • Tim if there were an active pandemic level outbreak of the other diseases you bet your patootie that would also be a requirement.

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