That's funny. Where have you been living? We've been attacking obesity since I was a child which is an unfortunately long time ago. What we don't have is interventions that work.
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Originally posted by Shant View PostThat's funny. Where have you been living? We've been attacking obesity since I was a child which is an unfortunately long time ago. What we don't have is interventions that work.
Who is "we"? Lip service. It is actually "impolite and rude" to even fat-shame let alone put in any effective programs.
We do have interventions, it is call consume less than you burn. It works.
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Originally posted by Shant View PostThat's funny. Where have you been living? We've been attacking obesity since I was a child which is an unfortunately long time ago. What we don't have is interventions that work.
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Originally posted by StarTrekDoc View Post
as it does really take two to dance....otherwise unless you're John Travolta, dancing by yourself makes one look like a bit of a fool.
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Because we discovered that the direct attack had the opposite to the intended effect. Anyway this is far off topic but I have been inundated with weight-based messaging and public health programs my entire life so I do wonder how you were not.
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Originally posted by Kamban View Post
Oh my, that made me watch the SNF video with its bell bottom jeans, combed back hair and gritty NYC . Brought back memories. Pity that one one Bee Gee is still alive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbeFSYP2qsg Disco Demolition Night Comisky Park
Trends come and go.
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Originally posted by Tim View Post
One health issue that has been known for at least 60 years, obesity. The toll this takes on our society is huge from just about any point of view. Yet, there is no overwhelming support for attacking this problem in virtually vested interest.
https://www.businessinsider.com/navy...reveals-2019-9
FastStats is an official application from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) and puts access to topic-specific statistics at your fingertips.
If our society attacked obesity, would it be effective in fighting the pandemic (not to mention the other benefits). ?
Not intended to suggest social or political change. Merely an example that care is taken to selectively choose “issues” to regulate.
Vaccines have been mandated by states at least since the Supreme Court ruled that Massachusetts can mandate the smallpox vaccine in mass v. Jacobson in 1905.
The federal govt is more limited in its powers but can mandate the vaccine for military, federal workers, make rules regarding interstate travel, and put pressure on states.
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Originally posted by Dusn View Post
Obesity is not infectious. Although if the govt is still subsidizing corn syrup production, I agree with the hypocrisy and it should start taking real steps to slow obesity.
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Originally posted by CordMcNally View Post
The talk around individual rights typically center around how the unvaccinated affect other people by possibly infecting them. What about obese people causing rising health care costs for other people?
the reason it doesn’t happen with fat people is because there’s so many of them, and pissing them off is not a good way to get re-elected.
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Originally posted by Shant View PostBecause we discovered that the direct attack had the opposite to the intended effect. Anyway this is far off topic but I have been inundated with weight-based messaging and public health programs my entire life so I do wonder how you were not.
Private employers using OSHA. First they have to write the regulations. The USPS is a private entity and suggests that it needs to be bargained.The teachers unions will have a say also. How long will this take? Then let's consider OSHA enforcement. The complaint process is lengthy and laborious and then the question is the penalties.
OSHA has to do a field review and compliance audit and then the enforcement process. Take a look at how long the OSHA process takes for true safety violations.
This will bear fruit in about 5 years, if ever. The point is that the announcement was a sound bite. All bark and no bite. Political messaging that will not deal effectively with Delta or vaccines. Messaging intended as an "accomplishment". I have no doubt some pieces are legal, but not all. And it polarized the vaccine goal even farther.
CDC says 75.3% of the adult population has at least one vaccine shot. That ignores natural immunity for those that have recovered. Just at what point is herd immunity?
A huge waste of time to "message" that the government is doing something.
I personally support vaccinations and have worked hard to get "hesitant" people I know to vaccinate. The messaging is ineffective. That is on topic. We need to get the population vaccinated. This pushed vaccines farther away rather than helpful. Now the damage will need to be undone.
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Originally posted by CordMcNally View Post
I agree. Insurance companies can choose to do that if they wish instead of a blanket government mandate.
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Originally posted by CordMcNally View Post
I don't think we're necessarily attacking obesity these days. There sure are a lot of "Big is Beautiful" campaigns out there. I don't see many "Big is Generally Unhealthy" campaigns.
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Originally posted by Lithium View Post
the reason it doesn’t happen with fat people is because there’s so many of them, and pissing them off is not a good way to get re-elected.
I smoke Camels and I am cool and beautiful. That era passed in the 1960's
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Originally posted by CordMcNally View Post
I don't think we're necessarily attacking obesity these days. There sure are a lot of "Big is Beautiful" campaigns out there. I don't see many "Big is Generally Unhealthy" campaigns.
Also - I do like the soda tax that NYC did. We tax other 'vices'. Sugary drink should be the same IMHO
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