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That's fine. My point, once again, is that you don't "fundamentally" disagree with that principle as you stated earlier:
Even you would apply it sometimes. You seem to be taking a rights based approach to this when that isn't really the issue. Others can have the same general view of individual freedoms as you do, but they simply have different views on COVID, the vaccine, etc.
my entrance to the conversation began w regards to covid vaccine mandates.
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If people want to make bad choices that’s fine, just don’t make me liable for them.Comment
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It’s not that I support the state imposing choices on others per se, but if the state requires ME to pay for others poor choices, then shouldn’t the state also do something to punish those poor choices made by others?
If people want to make bad choices that’s fine, just don’t make me liable for them.
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Originally posted by StarTrekDoc View Post
I do believe there are different bars and responsibilities which a private institution vs government support -- that's not the point
How is one's civil liberties invaded by the latter while not by the former on the same action?
Yes. Please support your contention.
As a person who has significant Libertarian leanings, I do realize when there is a line where individual rights cede to the public right. I'd like to see where your contentions are that individual rights are invaded in one setting vs the same situation is not in another.
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Originally posted by StarTrekDoc View Post
I do believe there are different bars and responsibilities which a private institution vs government support -- that's not the point
How is one's civil liberties invaded by the latter while not by the former on the same action?
Yes. Please support your contention.
As a person who has significant Libertarian leanings, I do realize when there is a line where individual rights cede to the public right. I'd like to see where your contentions are that individual rights are invaded in one setting vs the same situation is not in another.
college is a pretty easy example
or NYC mandates such as no visit to health club without vaccineComment
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That's VERY different from the vaccine mandates coming from local entities at the local level and MANY of the individual civil liberties being claim to be invaded.
Here's a specific example to answer: If a local public hospital comes out with a vaccine mandate for its employees with only a medical or religious exemption, is that okay?
Last edited by StarTrekDoc; 08-29-2021, 03:14 PM.👍 1Comment
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For me, that's not good enough for a mandate. You could make the same argument for not smoking and not being obese and not rock climbing but none of those are enforceable mandates to work as a physician, much less, say, a cook in a hospital.Comment
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This is different from said hospitals restricting employees with mandates. You're talking about broad overreach of government. I would say yes, that is too far, too much. Plenty of examples all over the political spectrum with I agree such overreach on the determinations of the school boards, companies, and entities on what can/cannot be done.
That's VERY different from the vaccine mandates coming from local entities at the local level and MANY of the individual civil liberties being claim to be invaded.
Here's a specific example to answer: If a local public hospital comes out with a vaccine mandate for its employees with only a medical or religious exemption, is that okay?👍 3Comment
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Have hospitals ever been overloaded by obese people or rock climbers or smokers like they were from covid patients?👍 3Comment
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