Medical Discussion of Coronavirus

[Shant]

I think you have that backwards...

Which is particularly funny following the ivermectin cultist discussion...

[CBCwDiffpls]

How old is he? When these sorts of personality changes develop in an elderly person, I always wonder if dementia is beginning to rear its head. (Of course, under age 70 that's not as likely an explanation).

mid 50s

[artemis]

mid 50s

Sounds like a severe case of Facebook poisoning, then. Fingers crossed he wises up before he catches COVID, as he's entered the age when the disease starts getting dangerous to significant numbers of healthy people.

[FIREshrink]

"the new report said the intelligence council and other agencies favoring the natural theory only had only low confidence in their conclusions — a sign that the intelligence behind the assessment was not strong and that conclusions could change."

I think you have that backwards...

I apologize, that wasn't a complete thought and I've corrected.

The FBI favors the lab leak theory, other intell agencies against, none with high confidence.

[Rando]

This report is making the Twitter rounds:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e2.htm

Unvaccinated symptomatic teacher reads to class with mask off, turns out to have COVID. Everybody in the front row contracts Delta, 3/5 in the next row, 1 student in each of the next two rows, 2/4 in the back row. Students apparently were masked and the door was left open for ventilation.

People will make of his what they will. Would the teacher wearing a mask have prevented spread of Delta? Probably some, moreso if if it was a high quality mask.

[Jaqen Haghar MD]

There may be something to this common sense analysis….

[StarTrekDoc]

There may be something to this common sense analysis….

Stewart really should run for some type of office. Perhaps, say -- oh -- Gov of NY.

[Kamban]

This report is making the Twitter rounds:

Unvaccinated symptomatic teacher reads to class with mask off, turns out to have COVID. Everybody in the front row contracts Delta, 3/5 in the next row, 1 student in each of the next two rows, 2/4 in the back row. Students apparently were masked and the door was left open for ventilation.

People will make of his what they will. Would the teacher wearing a mask have prevented spread of Delta? Probably some, moreso if if it was a high quality mask.

Only two things would have helped

1. He / She was symptomatic. He / She should have quarantined himself.

2. The idiot should have been vaccinated.

I strongly support all teachers to be vaccinated or they can look for other jobs. I think the bluff of theirs quitting en masse should be called. They have more to lose from loss of income than the students. Don't blink, and they will protest but they will meekly get vaccinated in the end. They love their greenbacks more.

[Tangler]

Only two things would have helped

1. He / She was symptomatic. He / She should have quarantined himself.

2. The idiot should have been vaccinated.

I strongly support all teachers to be vaccinated or they can look for other jobs. I think the bluff of theirs quitting en masse should be called. They have more to lose from loss of income than the students. Don't blink, and they will protest but they will meekly get vaccinated in the end. They love their greenbacks more.

Vaccination should Not be optional for teachers, healthcare workers, and nursing home employees etc.

They can work elsewhere.

You don’t have the right to infect others.

This is coming from a fiscally conservative small government guy.

You get a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt and for driving 120 miles per hour.

You are free to eat junk food and destroy your health. Free to smoke MJ in most states now. Free to smoke tobacco, drink alcohol, not exercise, not sleep, watch TV all day and night and spend your money on stupid stuff.

You are not free to endanger others or their children.

My family lives in Alabama and there are a lot of people who did not get vaccinated because..............

Why could we not have had this as our message last summer?

https://forum.whitecoatinvestor.com/...rgan%20freeman


We really messed up the messaging. Sorry to beat a dead horse. Just upsets me.

Last Summer and for the last year we should have had more athletes and celebrities asking people to get vaccinated.

Instead we have Cam Newton not vaccinated and Auburns head football coach not vaccinated and many minorities not vaccinated and many right wing republicans not vaccinated.

For many ridiculous reasons.

The hospital I am working in now has a vaccine mandate and it just seems like common sense to me. Sorry for the rant.

[Zaphod]

This report is making the Twitter rounds:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e2.htm

Unvaccinated symptomatic teacher reads to class with mask off, turns out to have COVID. Everybody in the front row contracts Delta, 3/5 in the next row, 1 student in each of the next two rows, 2/4 in the back row. Students apparently were masked and the door was left open for ventilation.

People will make of his what they will. Would the teacher wearing a mask have prevented spread of Delta? Probably some, moreso if if it was a high quality mask.

One of the interesting things about the report I heard (and have not confirmed) is that a researcher going into the caves, catching it, and spreading it is not lab leak but natural spillover. Which, I can see both sides of that, it is natural spillover (and honestly i think its most likely scenario) but caused by the labs activities.

[artemis]

One of the interesting things about the report I heard (and have not confirmed) is that a researcher going into the caves, catching it, and spreading it is not lab leak but natural spillover. Which, I can see both sides of that, it is natural spillover (and honestly i think its most likely scenario) but caused by the labs activities.

What drives me nuts is that, in the end, it really doesn't matter where the virus came from. Even if it didn't come from the Wuhan lab, there's good reason to take a closer look at virology labs and tighten up safety regulations when it comes to pathogens that may have the ability to jump into the human population. And we know plenty of other viruses in the past HAVE entered the human population via natural spillover (measles, HIV, Ebola, hantaviruses, etc.), so it's a sure bet that at some point that will happen again in the future. What matters now is dealing with the current pandemic more effectively and having workable plans in place so we will be better prepared for the next one.

[Rando]

What drives me nuts is that, in the end, it really doesn't matter where the virus came from. Even if it didn't come from the Wuhan lab, there's good reason to take a closer look at virology labs and tighten up safety regulations when it comes to pathogens that may have the ability to jump into the human population. And we know plenty of other viruses in the past HAVE entered the human population via natural spillover (measles, HIV, Ebola, hantaviruses, etc.), so it's a sue bet that at some point that will happen again in the future. What matters now is dealing with the current pandemic more effectively and having workable plans in place so we will be better prepared for the next one.

Basically I agree though I would say if it came from the Wuhan lab, even unintentionally, then China misrepresented its origins and the world should figure out how they're going to handle that. It has political implications. From a practical standpoint of managing the pandemic it doesn't make much difference.

[Hatton]

Vaccination should Not be optional for teachers, healthcare workers, and nursing home employees etc.

They can work elsewhere.

You don’t have the right to infect others.

This is coming from a fiscally conservative small government guy.

You get a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt and for driving 120 miles per hour.

You are free to eat junk food and destroy your health. Free to smoke MJ in most states now. Free to smoke tobacco, drink alcohol, not exercise, not sleep, watch TV all day and night and spend your money on stupid stuff.

You are not free to endanger others or their children.

My family lives in Alabama and there are a lot of people who did not get vaccinated because..............

Why could we not have had this as our message last summer?

https://forum.whitecoatinvestor.com/...rgan%20freeman


We really messed up the messaging. Sorry to beat a dead horse. Just upsets me.

Last Summer and for the last year we should have had more athletes and celebrities asking people to get vaccinated.

Instead we have Cam Newton not vaccinated and Auburns head football coach not vaccinated and many minorities not vaccinated and many right wing republicans not vaccinated.

For many ridiculous reasons.

The hospital I am working in now has a vaccine mandate and it just seems like common sense to me. Sorry for the rant.

I do want to point out that I live in Alabama. I am vaccinated even boosted, all my friends are vaccinated, and all my family is vaccinated. My county has a high vaccination rate. The only unvaccinated person that I have come across recently was a lexus car salesman. He told me he just did not have time but incredibly a CVS is located across the street and he could walk to it.

[Hatton]

PS I bought the car anyway.

[StateOfMyHead]

PS I bought the car anyway.

It might have been a meaningful message if you purchased it elsewhere.