Medical Discussion of Coronavirus

[billy]

Someone on one of the physician blogs on FB posted that 0.6% of vaccine and 0.5% of placebo groups in the trials had an anaphylactoid reaction requiring the use of their epipens. I have not read through pfizer's study to confirm, but the news reports seem like a scare tactic headline. That being said, since this is such a sensitive topic, maybe the ones with severe allergies shouldnt have been part of the first wave of vaccinations?

[Hatton]

Someone on one of the physician blogs on FB posted that 0.6% of vaccine and 0.5% of placebo groups in the trials had an anaphylactoid reaction requiring the use of their epipens. I have not read through pfizer's study to confirm, but the news reports seem like a scare tactic headline. That being said, since this is such a sensitive topic, maybe the ones with severe allergies shouldnt have been part of the first wave of vaccinations?

I just read the report and did not see anything like that. Interesting increase in appendicitis in vaccine versus placebo group.. More Bell's palsy.

[billy]

I just read the report and did not see anything like that. Interesting increase in appendicitis in vaccine versus placebo group.. More Bell's palsy.

I wonder why appendicitis? was it a significant number?
Also, where did you find the report?

[Kamban]

Someone on one of the physician blogs on FB posted that 0.6% of vaccine and 0.5% of placebo groups in the trials had an anaphylactoid reaction requiring the use of their epipens. I have not read through pfizer's study to confirm, but the news reports seem like a scare tactic headline. That being said, since this is such a sensitive topic, maybe the ones with severe allergies shouldnt have been part of the first wave of vaccinations?

Placebo does not mean benign. There could be something in the placebo to cause it unless it was 0.9% saline.

I am concerned about things like appendicitis and Bells Palsy. I will get vaccinated but not during the first wave. I would like to see not only to see the side effects of this vaccine but also see a competitor or two enter the field and see if it has better side effect profile or better efficacy. And if the vaxxers want to call me a pariah, so be it.

[Kamban]

. If I end up in the ICU with Guillain-Barre, they say they probably won’t end up being vaccinated. Hah! Wish me luck.

Should I rebook my 2020 summer trip to Norway that I cancelled earlier this year? Before the prices start to go up to normal?

Go ahead and do that before they close it once more.

[CordMcNally]

I wonder why appendicitis? was it a significant number?
Also, where did you find the report?

TheQuietOne posted a link above. I think they said the number of people with appendicitis and Bell’s were in line with the typical prevalence of the population.

[CordMcNally]

I wonder how long side effects from the vaccine last? From the data, there's a decent chance that you'll get side effects, especially from the 2nd dose. Some of the things important to me are not yet known, including whether or not it can prevent transmission. From that information, I'm still fairly undecided and leaning more towards waiting a bit. I'm sure I'll have to decide in the next week or so.

[triad]

No. So far, they're doing about what every other treatment has done. At first it looks like good news and everyone gets excited and then come to find out it doesn't really do much. Plus, they're $$$$$.

thats disappionting

[FunkDoc83]

What are those with COVID antibodies doing in regards to vaccine? I suspect I will have antibodies in my blood, but my antibody test from giving blood is pending, so I don't know yet what I plan on doing in regards to being the of the first people to get a vaccine in my location.

[CordMcNally]

What are those with COVID antibodies doing in regards to vaccine? I suspect I will have antibodies in my blood, but my antibody test from giving blood is pending, so I don't know yet what I plan on doing in regards to being the of the first people to get a vaccine in my location.

They don't know since that wasn't an end point and there isn't enough data to study it but I would be surprised if they don't still recommend it. I think Fauci already came out and recommended it for those previously infected. Antibodies can't be relied upon to determine whether you've had previous infection or are immune.

[StarTrekDoc]

CordMcNally While these vaccines are under the EUA, I would find it very difficult for systems to mandate its administration regardless of pandemic status. They can offer accommodations to take one offline in direct exposure but I highly doubt they have a legal standing to fire the person who declines such a vaccine.

[CordMcNally]

CordMcNally While these vaccines are under the EUA, I would find it very difficult for systems to mandate its administration regardless of pandemic status. They can offer accommodations to take one offline in direct exposure but I highly doubt they have a legal standing to fire the person who declines such a vaccine.

Huh? I've never said anything about making the vaccine mandatory or firing those who choose not to get it so I'm not sure who you're commenting towards. I'm fairly certain that it's going to be universally voluntary from a hospital system standpoint. I did mention that I believe Fauci recommended those who've had the infection before get the vaccine but that's a far cry from making it mandatory.

[billy]

I have decided to be vaccinated as soon as possible. Hopefully early next week. I feel the risk of the vaccine is likely small and the benefit to both myself and society very likely far outweighs that small risk.

Many of the hospital staff around me want to wait a bit before being vaccinated. If I end up in the ICU with Guillain-Barre, they say they probably won’t end up being vaccinated. Hah! Wish me luck.

Should I rebook my 2020 summer trip to Norway that I cancelled earlier this year? Before the prices start to go up to normal?

Rutgers posted about a COVID patient who ended up with guillen barre- so risk of covid -->GBS vs risk of vaccine-->GBS?

My hospital will be rolling out the vaccine on a voluntary basis, with frontline people first in line (I'm guessing ICU/ER staff, then pulm/ID/anesthesia, then risk profiled). I don't know if someone who had responded "I dont want the vaccine" when our survey came out a few weeks ago will lose their spot based on priority if they change their mind about receiving it. Many nurses who are thinking about or trying to get pregnant are hesitant about getting the vaccine in the initial roll out.

[TheQuietOne]

I think everyone is entitled to decide whether to get the shot or not. If waiting to see my options with the vaccines puts me in the back of the line, that’s okay with me. My clinic has not had any issues with keeping our staff and patients safe with our strict protocols. Also want to point out that the 95% CI crosses 0 for several demographic groups on Table 8, page 26 under the Vaccine Efficacy section.

[HikingDO]

Every. Single. One. Of my my seniors wants to be put on our nonexistent covid vaccine list, even though I tell them that we don’t have a Covid vaccine list and we don’t even know if we’ll get the vaccines in our office our not. Doesn’t matter, they still want to be put on the nonexistent list.