Medical Discussion of Coronavirus

[Jaqen Haghar MD]

I am not sure if you were talking about the 5% tax on people who can work from home during the pandemic, to support those who cannot

https://www.businessinsider.com/deutsche-bank-working-from-home-tax-staff-workers-businesses-2020-11

Either way, it is the people working who are supporting those who can’t, during the pandemic. But I think it’s better when people feel the cost directly, rather than pretend that some omnipotent entity magically pays for stimulus programs and bail-outs. This gives them a more realistic connection to the costs of these decisions, even when they are absolutely necessary.

[CordMcNally]

Either way, it is the people working who are supporting those who can’t, during the pandemic. But I think it’s better when people feel the cost directly, rather than pretend that some omnipotent entity magically pays for stimulus programs and bail-outs. This gives them a more realistic connection to the costs of these decisions, even when they are absolutely necessary.

I like that idea. Each person should have to write a check to the government for the particular spending their money is going to. I predict government will have the biggest amount of turnover ever seen once people have to write a personal check for all the wasted spending the government does.

[Tim]

I like that idea. Each person should have to write a check to the government for the particular spending their money is going to. I predict government will have the biggest amount of turnover ever seen once people have to write a personal check for all the wasted spending the government does.

Particularly if your check is to partially pay for the salary and benefits of the person collecting the check. Should it be made out to the individual, jointly, or “United States Treasury”? Anonymity is the enemy of accountability. A powerful citizens review board would decimate our government even if it was accurate and fair.

[Jaqen Haghar MD]

Particularly if your check is to partially pay for the salary and benefits of the person collecting the check. Should it be made out to the individual, jointly, or “United States Treasury”? Anonymity is the enemy of accountability. A powerful citizens review board would decimate our government even if it was accurate and fair.

[StarTrekDoc]

Either way, it is the people working who are supporting those who can’t, during the pandemic. But I think it’s better when people feel the cost directly, rather than pretend that some omnipotent entity magically pays for stimulus programs and bail-outs. This gives them a more realistic connection to the costs of these decisions, even when they are absolutely necessary.

That's true with any and all taxes to any and all projects/stimulus/plans/budgets.

We can absolutely add a surcharge like restaurants do now to cover vague 'additional operating costs' instead of raising prices.

[G]

"The only way this stops is if people rise up. You get what you accept."
--White House Coronavirus Task Force advisor, Scott Atlas, tweet about new Michigan restrictions to address COVID-19 spread.

"The reason why I voted against every single incumbent on the ballot."
--Dad and pit doc, G, responding to tweet by White House advisor that literally calls for insurrection.

[AR]

I don't know if this was already posted, but I found it interesting, but not really that surprising:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/15/health/Covid-doctors-nurses-quitting.html

[StarTrekDoc]

I don't know if this was already posted, but I found it interesting, but not really that surprising:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/15/h...-quitting.html

Not surprised, but sad it's happening.

Looked at our county's numbers today:

These are the highest numbers we've seen to date ?

Last week they were young ones and getting into households widely. Hospitalizations had spiked but stabilized over the end of the week. Let's hope it doesn't get further into more multigen households.

Sadly fatigue is really setting in. Even a doc having a sizable get together this weekend on our block

[Tim]

“Sadly fatigue is really setting in. ”
Work/life balance has required accommodations. Reaching the point that repetitive stress is at least uncomfortable or causing damage.
The coping techniques (like work from home and activity changes) are beginning to strain. Next level adjustments probably have diminishing returns but are coming into play.
The old standbys (personal, job, location) don’t work. Connecticut vs Colorado, accommodations still needed in some form. The vaccine announcement was a big motivational pump. Not sure how long the adrenaline boost will last.

[CordMcNally]

Not surprised, but sad it's happening.

Looked at our county's numbers today:

These are the highest numbers we've seen to date ?

Last week they were young ones and getting into households widely. Hospitalizations had spiked but stabilized over the end of the week. Let's hope it doesn't get further into more multigen households.

Sadly fatigue is really setting in. Even a doc having a sizable get together this weekend on our block

I'm not sure it's necessarily all just fatigue. I think a big part of it is that people just want to live again. Despite what people hear on the news, there is still no end in sight. An end will come but nobody knows when for sure. People do their own risk vs. benefit analysis and then proceed. Many will die because of those choices but I think there's something to be said for living a life you wanted to live.

[Panscan]

Either way, it is the people working who are supporting those who can’t, during the pandemic. But I think it’s better when people feel the cost directly, rather than pretend that some omnipotent entity magically pays for stimulus programs and bail-outs. This gives them a more realistic connection to the costs of these decisions, even when they are absolutely necessary.

I wish there was a push for price transparency in everything . It seems like basically all entities get more and more complex from a billing perspective to try to hide the fluff. Resort fees , parking fees at apartments , etc etc . So many ************************ fees

[Peds]

94.5%..........meaning what?

[CordMcNally]

94.5%..........meaning what?

I fully expect for several more 'successful' vaccines to be announced now that Pfizer came out with their announcement. The pressure is on.

[Hatton]

I just got my COVID antibody test drawn. I did the Pfizer trial vaccine. If I have antibodies they are from the vaccine. Hoping.

[Panscan]

do either of the vaccine releases describe serologic responses ? That would seem like a more durable outcome than getting covid or not as it’s gonna be pretty hard to control for everyone’s behavior.

if they could say 95% of the recipients demonstrated antibodies that would be very powerful IMO