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  • I did a bit of google map street view investigating, I believe the Tesla was likely driving southbound on 75 in the number 3 right hand lane. Autopilot was fooled into thinking the exit lane to the rest stop was a highway lane and proceeded into the rest stop and rammed in a semi that was parked at the rest stop.

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    • Originally posted by fatlittlepig View Post
      I did a bit of google map street view investigating, I believe the Tesla was likely driving southbound on 75 in the number 3 right hand lane. Autopilot was fooled into thinking the exit lane to the rest stop was a highway lane and proceeded into the rest stop and rammed in a semi that was parked at the rest stop.
      Could be. I was seated in the passenger seat in a left turn lane as a kid. It is amazing someone would drive through and straight into us, head on collision. No electronics then.

      Can you tell me what the 60 year old woman was doing? There is a reason self driving is not yet ready. “WTF was she doing? “ is my thought. The same thought I had sitting there waiting for impact. My wife turns off speed control because it turns on drivers assist. Speeding up on an interchange ramp is in her words “pretending to be smart”, artificial intelligence. The lady was driving.

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      • Originally posted by Tim View Post
        Can you tell me what the 60 year old woman was doing? There is a reason self driving is not yet ready. “WTF was she doing? “ is my thought.
        Yes this is really the thing. You aren't meant to be asleep or totally inattentive. Your car exits the highway and you don't think maybe you should take control? And yes we won't know for awhile whether an autopilot was involved.

        It's interesting when you look at crash statistics one would think that Teslas are a disaster. Apparently form NHTSA data when looking at vehicles with some form of collision mitigation system, Tesla had 273 crashes with 800,000 vehicles on the road in a ten month period and Honda next with 90 crashes with 6 million vehicles over same period. BUT Tesla is capturing every crash with on-board sensing and central monitoring whereas virtually no other manufacturer is collecting data in this way and many crashes go unreported.

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        • AI is still gestating. I’m not interested but I’m gen z.

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          • I know I could just google it, but how many miles for tire change and where have you gone to get it done?

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            • Originally posted by burritos View Post
              I know I could just google it, but how many miles for tire change and where have you gone to get it done?
              I do at Costco q7500-10K miles. Costs ~$30. If they have Tesla's inner foam tires when it comes to original tires replacement, then tire rotations would be covered under the total price paid.

              Those tires don't last as long because of heavier car weight compared to similar sized ICE car.

              I don't have Tesla service Center in SC. So when one of my original tires had a sidewall leak that could not be repaired I had to go to a local tire shop that did Tesla tires and the cost was similar to what a Service center would have charged - $350.

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              • Moved to pilot 4s. Lasts 25k for us . Discount tires since it's close , fast and great cs.

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                • Originally posted by StarTrekDoc View Post
                  Moved to pilot 4s. Lasts 25k for us . Discount tires since it's close , fast and great cs.
                  Do they include 7.5K tire rotations for free in their initial price?

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                  • Free rotations for any tires - including OEM tires -- a nice corp citizen for the community

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                    • Should we care that owning an ev comes from a position of privilege/wealth(ie. owning a home). Yes there are exceptions, but not being able to plug in at home reduces access for non home owners. I mean I don't care, but it is thrown out there as the EVolution progresses.

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                      • I live in an apartment and the parking garage has free charging.

                        If you download the PlugShare app there’s bound to be decent public charging close to you.

                        As ev adoption grows, more public charging will get installed. Apartments will install them and be an amenity. Work places can install them now and get a tax write off (for now).

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                        • Mutliplex housing will find a way to do charging as adoption increases as will business charging when employees start asking and cities incentivize chargers.

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                          • Originally posted by StarTrekDoc View Post
                            Mutliplex housing will find a way to do charging as adoption increases as will business charging when employees start asking and cities incentivize chargers.
                            And all of costs will be free. Right? I wonder what it would cost to install and run a 200 -500 space capacity parking garage? And what the bill would be for the electricity? Or are solar panels and batteries going to save the day? What is a city’s incentive and revenue source for these incentives you speak of?
                            The current “free” recharging stations are marketing amenities with very few available compared to capacity for parking. Not scalable. Rebates to EV mfg or customers won’t be handed over.
                            My guess, not in our lifetime. Nice try. By then it will be to late, right? The point is these are “pipe dreams” without any real practical plans.

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                            • Originally posted by Tim View Post

                              And all of costs will be free. Right? I wonder what it would cost to install and run a 200 -500 space capacity parking garage? And what the bill would be? Or are solar panels and batteries going to save the day? What is a city’s incentive and revenue source for these incentives you speak of?
                              The current “free” recharging stations are marketing amenities with very few available compared to capacity for parking. Not scalable. Rebates to EV mfg or customers won’t be handed over.
                              My guess, not in our lifetime. Nice try. By then it will be to late, right?
                              Free charging, won't that be decided by the landlord? Once I bumped into a lady at LAX who was waiting for me to finish up my charge.(she waited for 10 minutes). We were talking and she said that her apartment building had designated EV charging parking spots for $75/mo. Just one example though. In my rental townhouse, the current tenant asked if he paid, could he install a 240V outlet for his EV. I had no objection.

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                              • Originally posted by burritos View Post

                                Free charging, won't that be decided by the landlord? Once I bumped into a lady at LAX who was waiting for me to finish up my charge.(she waited for 10 minutes). We were talking and she said that her apartment building had designated EV charging parking spots for $75/mo. Just one example though. In my rental townhouse, the current tenant asked if he paid, could he install a 240V outlet for his EV. I had no objection.
                                Cool. Just “a” parking spot in Boston was $300/ month. And the hospital charged $200 for fellowship/residents and a walk of about 1/4 mile. Every floor of my daughters high rise garage has 2 EV spots. Probably 100 cars per floor. My brother gets a garage for like $50 at his apartment. Amenities cost, and redoing wiring and capacity for housing is not an amenity, it is a utility with a large impact, Now “wireless charging” would be a game changer. Just need solar panels without the panels. The reality is from start to finish, renewable energy is not scalable at this time.

                                Did you raise his rent after he installed the 220? Landlords choice.

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