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  • Remember the Colonial Pipeline!
    Most here have not experienced gas lines. Hurricanes and gas shortages are really frustrating.

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    • I was in Costco yesterday and the 12 pumps are at the rear end of the parking lot. When I was leaving at mid day the line to the pumps stretched all the way to the front entrance, bumper to bumper. I had to catch the eye of a driver to give me a gap so that I could get out since I had parked on the other side of the parking lot. I was so glad that I was not one of those drivers, since my Tesla Y was fully charged.

      I think the frugal vs cheap thread might apply to those drivers. :-)

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      • Originally posted by Lordosis View Post


        I came across this and thought it was worth sharing.
        1hour during your free time.
        8hours while you sleep.

        Which is more effective?
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        • Originally posted by StarTrekDoc View Post

          1hour during your free time.
          8hours while you sleep.

          Which is more effective?
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          If the 8 hours are spent with it charging in your garage. Not off I-95 at some rest stop

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          • Originally posted by StarTrekDoc View Post

            1hour during your free time.
            8hours while you sleep.

            Which is more effective?
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            I've only had to fill my leaf once last year outside my home when I went to visit my accountant in downtown. Spent an 1/2 and hour geocaching and got to use some of my Spanish in the early morning.

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            • Originally posted by Lordosis View Post

              If the 8 hours are spent with it charging in your garage. Not off I-95 at some rest stop
              Supercharging stops are on average 20 minutes on road trips. If not Tesla, electrify America has some decent chargers too.

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              • Originally posted by Lordosis View Post

                If the 8 hours are spent with it charging in your garage. Not off I-95 at some rest stop
                That occurs if you have a non Tesla car and cannot find a fast DC charger. Tesla has an amazing supercharger network that you hardly spend more than 15-30 minutes charging before you are on your way. The horror stories occur with cars using CCS chargers like Audi e-tron and VW ID.* and Kia that are decent cars but the charging network is abysmal

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                • Originally posted by Tim View Post
                  Hurricanes and gas shortages are really frustrating.
                  Good thing you (& me) live in a place with no hurricanes and perfectly sunny weather daily with flat terrain that you can bike anywhere you like at ease.

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                  • Originally posted by xraygoggles View Post

                    Good thing you (& me) live in a place with no hurricanes and perfectly sunny weather daily with flat terrain that you can bike anywhere you like at ease.
                    "Remember the Colonial Pipeline!
                    Most here have not experienced gas lines."
                    Real question, where do Tesla's recharging stations get electricity in the areas impacted by the Colonial Pipeline? Maybe Kamban might shed some light?
                    Seems like the grid might be vulnerable to hacking too. Just a thought.

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                    • Originally posted by Kamban View Post

                      That occurs if you have a non Tesla car and cannot find a fast DC charger. Tesla has an amazing supercharger network that you hardly spend more than 15-30 minutes charging before you are on your way. The horror stories occur with cars using CCS chargers like Audi e-tron and VW ID.* and Kia that are decent cars but the charging network is abysmal
                      Yeah I realize the supercharger can fill you up in 30 minutes. But sooner or later there will be a line and Supercharger or no it will take longer then to fill up a tank.

                      Again this is on the rare occurrence you are on a road trip and need to charge in a busy location. Hopefully the charger network grows in proportion to the EV usage. Just playing devils advocate.

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                      • Tesla is constantly expanding the charging network. Unfortunately electrify America only exists because of vw diesel gate and I don’t think they’re expanding as much.

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                        • Originally posted by Nysoz View Post
                          Tesla is constantly expanding the charging network. Unfortunately electrify America only exists because of vw diesel gate and I don’t think they’re expanding as much.
                          Will charging stations become a commodity business? Gas and diesel is.

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                          • As electric cars become more common and the cost of high wattage chargers come down, I anticipate that charging stations will become more ubiquitous. I doubt they will be as common as gas/diesel as home charging exists in a way that home refueling doesn't.

                            However, if you are buying an electric car now I would make sure the current network meets your needs.

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                            • Who knows what future businesses would be available. Instead of gas stations, put chargers in parking lots. Depending on the level of charging, it 'forces' people to stay in the area for 20 minutes to hours.

                              With the associated chargers, fast casual dining options, grocery stores, or shopping areas. Cover mall parking lots with solar and add charging stations. The more time people spend in malls, the more money they spend. This would help those that can't charge at home or at work. If EVs do get more and more widespread, then a lot more work needs to be done in areas that are more apartment/condo/street parking heavy as well as improvements to the grid.

                              Gas stations don't make much money off selling gas, but more from the stuff inside. Same thing could be done for electricity.

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                              • The next 5-10 years all the problems need to be solved and in place. Batteries need to be recharged away from home. Just the reality. I am not so sure the power grid has capacity to distribute electricity to every house in a subdivision or every apartment parking spot (or 50%). A lot of moving pieces involved and timelines for infrastructure. Storage and distribution could be the bottlenecks. No idea and I doubt anyone has an actual guess.

                                https://www.barrons.com/articles/bat...?siteid=yhoof2

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