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  • StarTrekDoc
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    Have both 3 and y. Y is roughly 15% less efficient. Mainly because it simply sits higher.

    I swear that the vampire drain is higher though

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  • Nysoz
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    Originally posted by burritos View Post
    My wife will be upgrading to the y. I will sell my honda plug in and inherit the leaf. Trickle charge should be good enough but biking is now my primary form of commute. My son will likely take possession of it in 2.5 years.
    model 3 and the y are essentially the same and should charge similarly as well. same amount of energy, slightly less in terms of mileage

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  • burritos
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    Originally posted by Nysoz View Post

    yeah it's not any different than any other charger out in the us and would do just fine. If you're going to leave your adapter connected at home, I would get another one to leave in the car as well. it should charge a model 3 anywhere from 24-30 mph
    My wife will be upgrading to the y. I will sell my honda plug in and inherit the leaf. Trickle charge should be good enough but biking is now my primary form of commute. My son will likely take possession of it in 2.5 years.

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  • Molar Mechanic
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    For a car that ever leaves the city, Tesla has a massive advantage. For one town use, there are several other very economical options.

    I did just buy a 2017 Nissan Leaf for my teenage daughter. She'll probably only ever charge it from household current, but I don't think she'll ever drive it more than 20-40 miles in a day. The range is 115 miles or so. I don't think this is a car she'll take to college, but as soon as she graduates, I've got another kid ready for it. The lack of maintenance and fuel cost savings will be substantial. It was a really good balance of safety and affordability.

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  • Nysoz
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    Originally posted by burritos View Post
    I have 240v 40 amp for my leaf. it has a lvl 2 charger. i don’t have the specs. i have a feeling that it should charge a tesla(with included adapter.)
    yeah it's not any different than any other charger out in the us and would do just fine. If you're going to leave your adapter connected at home, I would get another one to leave in the car as well. it should charge a model 3 anywhere from 24-30 mph

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  • burritos
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    Originally posted by Kamban View Post

    The low end Model 3 SR+ will charge at a max of 32 amps so even the faster Tesla wall charger will not be better than using the charger supplied with the car and using the 220V adapter and plugging in a 40 amp 220V wall socket ( like the one for dryer).

    Only if you get the AWD Model 3 that charges at 48 amps will the faster $500 Tesla wall charger be faster than using the adapter and plugging in a routine 220V/40 amp wall socket. I got the wall charger only because I wanted one in the car at all times and leave one plugged in the wall at all times ( constantly plugging and unplugging the wall socket causes undue excessive heat build up and melting of the socket). The $500 was worth it to me for that reason.

    I think Tesla gives an adapter for J1772, like ones used by the Leaf. What is the max amp output of the Leaf charger?
    I have 240v 40 amp for my leaf. it has a lvl 2 charger. i don’t have the specs. i have a feeling that it should charge a tesla(with included adapter.)

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  • Kamban
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    Originally posted by burritos View Post

    so that i dont have to unmount my existing set up. will there be a significant diff between nissan vs leaf lvl charging? i am willing to get the $35 220v plug adapter. but not interested in the faster tesla wall charger.
    The low end Model 3 SR+ will charge at a max of 32 amps so even the faster Tesla wall charger will not be better than using the charger supplied with the car and using the 220V adapter and plugging in a 40 amp 220V wall socket ( like the one for dryer).

    Only if you get the AWD Model 3 that charges at 48 amps will the faster $500 Tesla wall charger be faster than using the adapter and plugging in a routine 220V/40 amp wall socket. I got the wall charger only because I wanted one in the car at all times and leave one plugged in the wall at all times ( constantly plugging and unplugging the wall socket causes undue excessive heat build up and melting of the socket). The $500 was worth it to me for that reason.

    I think Tesla gives an adapter for J1772, like ones used by the Leaf. What is the max amp output of the Leaf charger?

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  • Nysoz
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    burritos do you mean you already have a j1772 charger in your garage? if so, yes you can just use that with the supplied adapter.

    White.Beard.Doc private sale will net you more, but will take more effort. you can just list on facebook or craigslist to see interest. up to you if you want to talk to all the random people. check carmax and cavana quotes as well

    as for the other EVs, it's just not worth it. kia niro and hyundai kona are both decent cars but for the price range, but the model 3 is just better supported and can drive across the country with the super charger network. the only other car I would consider would be the rav4 prime hybrid, or Chrysler pacifica depending on your needs.

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  • White.Beard.Doc
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    Originally posted by burritos View Post

    so that i dont have to unmount my existing set up. will there be a significant diff between nissan vs leaf lvl charging? i am willing to get the $35 220v plug adapter. but not interested in the faster tesla wall charger.
    Do you have a 220 outlet in your garage? Tesla makes adapters for all varieties of outlets. They cost an extra $35 each.

    Use a variety of household outlets to charge your Tesla with a Gen 2 NEMA Adapter. Simply attach the appropriate adapter to your Mobile Connector, plug into the corresponding outlet and begin charging. Adapter Max Distance Gained Per Hour of Charge Model S Model 3 Model X Model Y 5-15 3 mi 4.8 km 3 mi 4.8 km 2 mi 3.2 km 3 mi 4.8 km 5-20 4 mi 6.4 km 4 mi 6.4 km 3 mi 4.8 km 4 mi 6.4 km 6-15 7 mi 11.2 km 11 mi 17.7 km 5 mi 8.0 km 10 mi 16.1 km 6-20 11 mi 17.7 km 15 mi 24.1 km 8 mi 12.9 km 14 mi 22.5 km 10-30 17 mi 27.4 km 22 mi 35.4 km 14 mi 22.5 km 21 mi 33.8 km 14-30 17 mi 27.4 km 22 mi 35.4 km 14 mi 22.5 km 21 mi 33.8 km 14-50 23 mi 37.0 km 30 mi 48.2 km 20 mi 32.2 km 29 mi 46.7 km 6-50 23 mi 37.0 km 30 mi 48.3 km 20 mi 32.2 km 29 mi 46.7 km To experience the best home charging speeds, Tesla recommends installing a Wall Connector. Note: Gen 1 Mobile Connectors (Model S and Model X vehicles produced before 2018) cannot be used with these products. For additional questions around installation and charging rates, visit Home Charging Installation Support.

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  • White.Beard.Doc
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    My better half was no longer happy with our 8 year old Model S, even though it is still a fantastic vehicle in almost new condition. So I surprised her this weekend with a brand new Model S. (On father's day, no less, because what makes for a happy dad? A happy mom!) This new Tesla has all wheel drive and a range of over 400 miles, plus it has the self driving features that did not exist back when we got the early Model S. And the computer controlled air suspension on the new Model S is far superior to the old suspension. Smooth as silk. They were not able to upgrade that with a simple software upgrade.

    So now I have to figure out what to do with our old Tesla S. I did not want to trade it as Tesla offered a very low trade in value. It is probable worth roughly 30k in a private sale according to multiple sources on the web. These older EVs make great used cars because they are very cheap to run and they need minimal maintenance. We experienced on average about 1.1% battery degradation per year, so the battery should be good for a minimum of another decade at this rate. I may just take it to auto nation as they quoted me 25k, significantly more than Tesla.

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  • burritos
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    Originally posted by Kamban View Post

    Why? Plug the charger that comes with every Tesla into a 220V for the fast charge (get the 220V end adapter instead of the 110V that comes with the kit, for $35 or so).

    On the road, use superchargers.
    so that i dont have to unmount my existing set up. will there be a significant diff between nissan vs leaf lvl charging? i am willing to get the $35 220v plug adapter. but not interested in the faster tesla wall charger.

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  • Kamban
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    Originally posted by burritos View Post
    Can we use a leaf lvl2 plus tesla j1772 adapter to power up the tesla y. Are there any issues to worry about?
    Why? Plug the charger that comes with every Tesla into a 220V for the fast charge (get the 220V end adapter instead of the 110V that comes with the kit, for $35 or so).

    On the road, use superchargers.

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  • Peds
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    Originally posted by burritos View Post
    Can we use a leaf lvl2 plus tesla j1772 adapter to power up the tesla y. Are there any issues to worry about?
    yes. j1772 + adapter -> tesla.
    its only superchargers that cant do anything else.

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  • StarTrekDoc
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    Originally posted by burritos View Post
    Can we use a leaf lvl2 plus tesla j1772 adapter to power up the tesla y. Are there any issues to worry about?
    v2v? pass. leaf will probably do something to the tesla

    Kia Niro EV drive was very nice. Almost got it last year for the daughter (she ended with Soul GT instead since don't know which school and EV limits if rural) -- didn't have the Y option. GM does a good job with the Bolt with cost/distance and subcompact side. My brother has that along with the 3.

    We got the 3 early and now the Y early too -- not as refined as high end luxury certainly; but lots of room, fun, performance and distance. checks all my boxes. Camry owners will love transitioning over.

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  • burritos
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    Can we use a leaf lvl2 plus tesla j1772 adapter to power up the tesla y. Are there any issues to worry about?

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