ACA, do we want it gone?

[burritos]

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/26/706869835/trump-administration-now-says-entire-affordable-care-act-should-be-repealed

Bye bye obamacare? I'm indifferent.

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[fatlittlepig]

1. burritos wrote:

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/26/706869835/trump-administration-now-says-entire-affordable-care-act-should-be-repealed

Bye bye obamacare? I’m indifferent.

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You’re indifferent to a bunch of people losing health insurance and Medicaid benefits?

[Panscan]

never going to go away so pointless discussion

[CordMcNally]

Regardless of which side you fall on, when is the last time the government ended such a large program like this?

[jhwkr542]

It's not really a program though. It's more a set of insurance rules. It drove up premiums because it required extra coverage from insurance providers without bringing in many more people. Most families can't pay $2k/mo for something they may not use. It never did anything to combat pricing unfortunately. Good forbid the two parties find any middle ground. One side wants government insurance for everyone, and the other would prefer a free market. Neither of which really addresses the main problem: cost of actual healthcare.

[CordMcNally]

jhwkr542 wrote:

It’s not really a program though. It’s more a set of insurance rules.

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I'll rephrase. When's the last time the government basically did a complete reversal of such a large bill?

[spiritrider]

I do not agree with much of what was in the ACA, but I have gladly massively benefited from it as have my girls.

Even though I have a lot of philosophical problems with it, it would be a massive mistake for it to go away without a replacement.

We can debate what that replacement might look like, but I'm guessing we would have as much trouble coming to a consensus as the politicians do. We all come from our own set of life experiences and biases.

[Tim]

Never. Requiring specific coverage (most significantly preexisting) and subsidizing payments (while making it more expensive for others) has never been done.
It was an attempt to redistribute the costs as well as the minimum coverage. Bottom third benefited, middle third unknowingly had higher costs that hurt, and the top third could afford it.
The sad part, politics rather than economics were and are the focal point.

[wideopenspaces]

I don't. It allowed a lot more people to get insurance, it covers pre existing conditions and covered mental health. A lot of my patients have benefited from it.

[Emilyjane]

As a 62 year old retired physician, hx of breast cancer, it is terrifying that the administration wants to get rid of pre-existing condition coverage.

[Tim]

If preexisting conditions were pulled out of ACA, would the other requirements remain? Most would support a government subsidy for that need. Then the fog starts rolling in. Whatever we call it, not everyone will get the “best care money can buy”.

[MSooner]

I do think it is funny that Christian Health Sharing ministries have thrived because of the ACA, but if it is repealed I hope all the friends/family I have using it get their a** back on an insurance plan ASAP. I don't think my generation (in college when ACA was passed) quite realizes what "no coverage for pre-existing conditions" really means.

[Bmac]

Everyone should have healthcare. Therefore everyone needs to pay in. Healthy as well as unhealthy. There should be a mandate. Pre-existing conditions must be covered. How can we consider ourselves a great and humane country if we don’t care for all our citizens?  I think it is horrible that ACA has been gutted. Not perfect, by a long stretch, but at least a step in the right direction. Certainly many have benefited from the ACA.

[Lordosis]

Would the 3.8% tax on cap gains go too?

[G]

"Would the 3.8% tax on cap gains go too?"

I laughed out loud at that one.