New SUV - thoughts?

[AZPT]

Kamban-

I am wondering this also. If you’re looking to spend $35k+ on a vehicle, why are Kia and Hyundai even in the conversation? What am I missing from the past 15 years of auto history?

[uptoolate]

I bought Honda/Acura for 30+ years but bought a Hyundai as a third car for kids in 2013.  Has more than 100k on it now. No problems. Much more bang for buck than Honda and I liked the styling better though the Hondas still feel somewhat more solid. My med school classmate bought the first Hyundai Pony in 1985 and it seemed like you could almost see the thing rusting in front of you. I am thinking of a Subaru to replace Odyssey.  DW would like the CrossTrek. Subaru is pretty up there in CR reviews.

[Kamban]

MPDO wrote:

A fully loaded Palisade is $48,000 and has some features that you don’t see on much more expensive cars.

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The danger i that if you decide to sell it in 2-4 years the depreciation will be way, way worse than a Toyota or Honda.

At 44-50K you are easily in Acura / Lexus ballpark, which hold its value better. The Lexus will also have reliability data measured in decades.

[Zaphod]

MPDO wrote:

It seems like the Palisade Limited (top end model) is equal in price to the Kia Telluride when you pick the top end model of the Telluride and add all the features that the Pallisade comes with. (Some features that come with the Pallisade are not available on the Telluride.)

All in all, price is about the same, so it’ll come down to which style you prefer.

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Palisade has some sweet inside features that would be very useful. Since its basically the same vehicle, have to go for what you'll use, and the power seat down, etc...very nice.

[StateOfMyHead]

madinat wrote:

is the subaru really that bad for the long run? i thought these were great for winter/all season driving? (i live in chicago area)

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I was wondering the same thing. Although the last two Foresters I have owned have had some nickel and dime annoyances that the previous two did not I find them to be a decent vehicle. Reasonably priced, good gas mileage, decent safety ratings, nice visibility and most important for those who have to go to work in the snow, AWD.

 

[Curious George]

It seems like the Palisade Limited (top end model) is equal in price to the Kia Telluride when you pick the top end model of the Telluride and add all the features that the Pallisade comes with. (Some features that come with the Pallisade are not available on the Telluride.)

All in all, price is about the same, so it’ll come down to which style you prefer.

[Zaphod]

MPDO wrote:

I used to only buy Toyotas, but more recently I’ve been happy with a pair of Hyundais. If I was in the market for a 7 passenger SUV, I’d consider the Hyundai Palisade, which was just put on sale for the first time a couple of months ago. It’s pretty much the same as the Kia Telluride, but the Kia is more of a sporty looking SUV and the Hyundai is more focused on luxury and convenience. A fully loaded Palisade is $48,000 and has some features that you don’t see on much more expensive cars.

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Does it justify almost 10k over the kia? Seems pretty steep. Will go check that out.

Super annoying, both look pretty cool but have small differences in different areas.

[childay]

MPDO wrote:

A fully loaded Palisade is $48,000 and has some features that you don’t see on much more expensive cars.

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A 50K hyundai wow.  I agree the korean brands are waaaaay better than decades previous though.  We test drove a genesis several years ago but interior was still somewhat cheap, but the tech was nice and definitely more affordable than similarly loaded competitors.

[Curious George]

I used to only buy Toyotas, but more recently I’ve been happy with a pair of Hyundais. If I was in the market for a 7 passenger SUV, I’d consider the Hyundai Palisade, which was just put on sale for the first time a couple of months ago. It’s pretty much the same as the Kia Telluride, but the Kia is more of a sporty looking SUV and the Hyundai is more focused on luxury and convenience. A fully loaded Palisade is $48,000 and has some features that you don’t see on much more expensive cars.

[madinat]

is the subaru really that bad for the long run? i thought these were great for winter/all season driving? (i live in chicago area)

[MPMD]

Disclaimer: I drive a 2011 4Runner SR5 (base model).

I would not buy a 4Runner unless you need true 4wd capabilities. I do for 2 reasons -- hunting and Great Lakes snow. I like mine I don't absolutely love it. They are obviously well made vehicles that go forever and hold value decently much like their cousin the Tacoma.

Reasons I would not buy a 4Runner

• terrible gas mileage, about like a full sized pickup I average 16 mpg w/ mostly city driving


• not built or designed for passenger comfort, it's a relatively comfortable car don't get me wrong but it's loud and the driver's seat is not awesome


• expensive higher end trims really just fill out things like LED screen etc w/o adding much comfort

As others have noted, the 4Runner is among the most truck-like of mid sized SUVs. Again, I like mine, I just have kind of a niche vehicle need and if I didn't have this need I would get something else.

 

[Zaphod]

Lordosis wrote:

If you are hauling people then a minivan is the way to go.  If you need the ability to tow then a large SUV.  I am always surprised how many Large 7 passenger SUVs I see with no cargo and just a driver.

 

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Shouldnt be, like houses and some other items, cars are bought on annoyance of edge use cases. Most people could get by with a 1 passenger yugo 90% of the time, but that other 10% of the time is going to be very annoying. Likely you see people going to and from work, as you're likely doing, and no reason to have the whole fam who is at school/etc...and a bunch of cargo for that.

I cant wait til I get a truck, it'll probably only be used truck style 15% or so of the time, but ************************ if that isnt just what you need and super useful.

[Kamban]

Lordosis wrote:

I am always surprised how many Large 7 passenger SUVs I see with no cargo and just a driver.

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Unfortunately we have become a family of one vehicle to one person, with a fourth old beater being used as a standby in case one of the other three breaks down.

The problem is that it except the rare times when we go to visit friends as a family, there is not more than one person in a vehicle. Everyone wants to call one vehicle as their own. One of the vehicles is a 7-8 seater SUV that is only fully occupied when my wife's parents stay with us and we all go out. It is driven solo by me or my wife 99 % of the time.

Our redemption comes from the fact that 2 are hybrids and one is a Tesla, so we do our bit for the environment.

[Zaphod]

That new Kia looks really nice and has great reviews. Much better value than others, will be looking to see how that holds up in a few years and maybe we snag one off lease.

[JohnW]

Both are great.  I like how the 4Runner looks, especially compared to the highlander but there’s something about that tank-like quality that makes them seem like they’ll last eons (even more so than highlanders, which may not be right).  I kinda want one.