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    The projections with syndicated real estate (whether through a crowdfunding site, an individual syndicator, or a fund) are often rosier than reality turns out to be. Several times I've been sent notices like this one I just received for one of my investments.
    Quarterly Update (Q4 2018)

    We would like to provide you with an update on your investment in the Preferred Equity - Houston Multifamily offering.

    Over the course of the last few months, we have been working closely with the Sponsor to finalize their 2019 budget which includes a renovation schedule for the remaining units. As mentioned in previous updates, one of the difficulties that the Sponsor ran into was lack of available subcontractors to effectively work through renovations. As a protective measure, the Sponsor has continued to lease out the Property to tenants on a month-to-month basis in order to generate cash flows and meet debt service.

    The plan moving forward will be to renovate 65 units over the next 9-12 months while leasing out finished units at market rates. Eight units are currently under renovation and are scheduled for completion in early March. As part of the new plan to address labor shortage, the Sponsor has informed us that they have signed employment contracts with electricians, plumbers, and HVAC crews in addition to contracting a larger team to handle carpentry and other renovation work. The Sponsor may add 2-3 more skilled laborers over the next couple weeks to help expedite the entire process and is committed to adhere to the schedule. After many discussions with the Sponsor, we now have a concrete plan in place to complete the unit renovations.

    Additionally, we have discussed cash flow distributions with the Sponsor extensively. As noted in previous updates, the initial Interest Reserves have been fully paid out at as of November. Per our Partnership Agreement, cash flow distributions to investors thereafter would be funded by available cash flows of the Property. Based on the current plan, distributions are projected to be partial with the remaining shortfall accrued until additional units are renovated and sufficient cash flows are generated. Delays in unit renovation have no doubt negatively impacted the timing of distributions to investors but all accrued amounts on Preferred Equity will be fully repaid ahead of any distributions to the Sponsor.

    While the news on current distributions is disappointing, the Houston market continues to be strong and the prospects for an attractive exit remains optimistic. We have requested that the Sponsor increase their reporting frequency to us on a monthly basis so we can closely monitor the progress of the renovation and we will keep you updated accordingly. We appreciate your patience over the last months as we have focused our attention on working with the Sponsor to get this project on track.

    I think this is about the third one of these I've received in the last few years. The "reason" for the shortfall is always unique but the lesson is that they occur and they occur fairly frequently. There is a lot of risk here and very little liquidity. With these equity investments, there's pretty much nothing you can do for a half decade or more.

    The lesson? Diversification protects you from what you don't know. This particular investment represents about 0.5% of my portfolio and only about 5% of this asset class in my portfolio. Will it catch up to pro-forma? Probably not. Will it still provide a reasonable investment return? I hope so. Will it hurt me significantly if it doesn't? Not really. But it is just as much "hope and pray" as real estate investors say the stock market is, but with a whole lot less liquidity.

    Caveat emptor.
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    I wish I could like that post to the 10th power.
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    • #3
      Also no real way to know whether or not theyre telling the truth. We put a lot of implicit faith in these things, same goes for markets, etc...

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      • #4
        This is what scares me about these kinds of investments. But good lesson on diversification.

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        • #5
          Beyond “buyer beware” it seems as though there is an underlying issue here regarding diversification. That is, what is the balance between taking a greater risk in expectation of a wealth building rate of return and diversifying the projects in that asset class to reduce the risk? As a practical matter, how do you decide?

          For example, I’ve heard venture capitalists have a 10:1 thumbrule, but the one of ten hit makes the overall activity profitable. For syndications you obviously expect a better hit rate than that, but let’s say one has $100k to invest. Should it be put in one, five, ten syndications? How to set the expected rate of return across all those projects?

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          • #6
            More than anything I think this speaks to a lesson my father taught me - if you want something done right, do it yourself.

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            • #7
              Diversification would be set in percentages in your AA.
              RE 10% of total with no more than 10% concentration in the class. That gets you to 1% sizing total with 10% within class.
              “This particular investment represents about 0.5% of my portfolio and only about 5% of this asset class in my portfolio.”
              A VC expects 10:10, in reality hits 10:1, Additionally looks at hundreds if not thousands to find the 10.

              For a $1,000,000 portfolio you would need 10 deals.
              Is it worth the time for a $10,000 investment looking at 10 deals to find one?
              How did you come up with $100k? You can get real estate diversification without syndicates.

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                More than anything I think this speaks to a lesson my father taught me – if you want something done right, do it yourself.
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                I'm not sure you can avoid these issues by being the manager. In fact, I might be even more likely to have similar issues since I suck at it.

                I think the main point is to realize that these issues do happen and that's why you don't make 18% on every deal.  This sort of stuff is what lowers your return.
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                • #9







                  More than anything I think this speaks to a lesson my father taught me – if you want something done right, do it yourself.
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                  I’m not sure you can avoid these issues by being the manager. In fact, I might be even more likely to have similar issues since I suck at it.

                  I think the main point is to realize that these issues do happen and that’s why you don’t make 18% on every deal.  This sort of stuff is what lowers your return.
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                  No doubt.  But when it comes to loaning people money (rather than trading securities) it's always going to be oversold and will have a tendency for graft.  Between the frictional costs of having the asset separated from you and the overselling of the returns I don't know that I'd ever trust someone else to manage hard assets for me.

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                  • #10
                    Well well well. Log in after a few days and a thread like this...

                    I can say a lot but I'll just keep it short.

                    If you ACTIVELY oversee RE (you don't have to manage but you are the primary buyer/deal maker), this sort of thing can be mitigated to flat out avoided (not finding subcontractors...what? weak sauce). Also your returns are higher. There is no argument there. There is work, but with proper systems it is fairly passive (middle of the night toilet argument...yawn). You don't make 18% on every deal, but I make higher on a few to then average ~18%+

                    Passive RE investors...no choice. Buckle up. Whatever sponsor says, you take it. You are stuck. ENT Doc has the right idea. Overall, Passive RE is ok but oversold.

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                    • #11
                      Passive RE is fine, but that means REITs. There is just no way that most of these syndications end up having returns like projected except for the very early investors or the executives running the thing. People seem to forget that the fraud level in RE is ginormous and pervasive. Especially given the tax way some of these are structured it makes little sense. Every time I superficially checked one of these out I was always just turned off by the complexity, illiquidity, required trust and lack of return.

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                      • #12
                        No such thing as passive investing.  everything has risks.  I'd rather be conservative and do my due diligence.

                        Lesson? don't go with the fad.  It is ok to go against the crowd.

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                          this sort of thing can be mitigated to flat out avoided
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                          Maybe. Maybe not. That's like the stock pickers saying "you shouldn't have bought that stock, it was a bad stock, I wouldn't have picked it."

                          With mutual funds, you can actually go back and check the track record of the stock pickers and find out if they had talent or not. They usually don't when you actually check the record. But there is no index in real estate. There is no real record for most property pickers.

                          That means nobody can verify much of anything, including your claimed returns (from which you do not seem to be subtracting anything for the value of your time, just like more real estate investors.) At doctor hourly rates, those costs are not insignificant.
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                            But there is no index in real estate. There is no real record for most property pickers.
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                            Real estate indexes exist. You may have to pay for some of the data. From Wikipedia residential RE indexes:

                            The Case-Shiller index prices are measured monthly and track repeat sales of houses using a modified version of the weighted-repeat sales methodology proposed by Karl Case and Robert Shiller and Allan Weiss. This means that, to a large extent, it is able to adjust for the quality of the homes sold, unlike simple averages. Specific indexes are available for specific metropolitan areas, and composite indexes for the top 20 and top 10 metro areas, and nationwide.

                            The US Federal Housing Finance Agency (formerly Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight a.k.a. OFHEO) publishes the HPI index, a quarterly broad measure of the movement of single-family house prices. The HPI is a weighted, repeat-sales index, meaning that it measures average price changes in repeat sales or refinancings on the same properties in 363 metropolises

                            FNC Inc. publishes the Residential Price Index, which is based on data collected from public records blended with data from real-time appraisals of property and neighborhood attributes. The RPI is the mortgage industry's first hedonic price index for residential properties. The RPI is constructed to gauge price movement among non-distressed home sales, and excludes sales of foreclosed properties.[1]Specific indices are available for specific metropolitan areas, and composite indices are available for the top 10, 20, 30, and 100[2] metro areas. The RPI is also available at the zip code level and can be constructed to track price trends for specific characteristics (e.g., ranch-style house, colonial-style house, etc.) since preferences can change over time.

                            House Canary HPI

                            HouseCanary publishes monthly HPI data at block, block group, zipcode, metro division and metropolitan levels.

                             

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                            • #15
                              I don't like publicly marketed syndications due to the non-transparent pricing and agency risk. I'm not sure if it is that different to a structured financial product. At the end of the day, you have to take the investment bank or syndicators bid. Which is usually fine until things get nasty. So in that regard owning property directly takes out that agency risk for other risks. But I think the agency risk is much, much bigger than what most people suppose.

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