emotional support animals come home to roost: WWYD?

[Hank]

Thread closed due to repeated spamming.

[Tim]

The ESA designation in and of itself is the problem.
A service support animal CAN actually provide needed services, emotional or physical. Protection, assistance, and actual actions that the owner and the public might not even recognize. Allows a service that permits life to go on . To be honest, dogs can assist with many things besides sight. I will leave it to the medical profession and trainers. But, ESA is not the same. No self trained “pet” can provide a service, just looks at one with the message, WTF where’s my treat?

[MPMD]

Lordosis wrote:

MPMD wrote:

my estimate is that your ratio is off by an order of magnitude. 

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you are quite possibly right and I would not argue with 2 orders of magnitude.

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my college physics 1 prof made us guess things to orders of magnitude on quizes.

e.g. to OOM how many people are in English-speaking countries?

to OOM how many people play college basketball every year.

kind of a fun game.

[GasFIRE]

Lordosis wrote:

MPMD wrote:

my estimate is that your ratio is off by an order of magnitude. 

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you are quite possibly right and I would not argue with 2 orders of magnitude.

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I work with a part time nurse, full time flight attendant. She calls BS on just about all of them. “Unless you’re blind, you don’t need an animal on the plane.”

[Lordosis]

MPMD wrote:

my estimate is that your ratio is off by an order of magnitude.

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you are quite possibly right and I would not argue with 2 orders of magnitude.

[MPMD]

Lordosis wrote:

For every legitimate and borderline service animal case there are 100 complete garbage ESA from people trying to avoid pet fees.  Ultimately it will hurt the people who really need these service animals.

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my estimate is that your ratio is off by an order of magnitude.

[Lordosis]

For every legitimate and borderline service animal case there are 100 complete garbage ESA from people trying to avoid pet fees.  Ultimately it will hurt the people who really need these service animals.

[Tim]

An affinity of training horses is admirable. Service animals can help. As far as training horses, I think she has a little work to do.
https://racingcommission.nebraska.gov/license-info
Might change her mind.

[jacoavlu]

I think with this horse the line between service animal / emotional support animal is somewhat blurry

https://www.omaha.com/livewellnebraska/health/meet-flirty-the-miniature-horse-and-service-animal-for-bellevue/article_804f56e8-dfe9-5f41-bee9-8518e95c37cb.html

“Hensley said Flirty helps her with medical alerts and mobility assistance.... Before working with Flirty, Hensley said she wasn’t able to complete shopping trips and would have a panic attack and either have to abandon her cart or leave without everything that was on her shopping list.“

and from https://www.wowt.com/content/news/Flirty-the-miniature-service-horse-from-La-Vista-450510273.html

”Hensley is allergic to dogs but she loves training horses.

"It kind of made sense to get a horse,” she said. The reason Hensley has a service animal isn't a dog and pony show.

"There was some sexual abuse when I was a kid,” she said. Hensley was also caught in the middle of an active shooter incident several years ago. It left her with emotional scars that can affect her physically.

"I was not able to really leave the house much,” Hensley told 6 News. "Usually I will end up completely shut down sitting in a corner somewhere having a hysterical sobbing attack."

[SLC OB]

Hank wrote:

You need to keep your pyromania in check and not burn down the rental.

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My brother owns quite a few rentals that he wishes would go up in flames... as they are well insured!

[jfoxcpacfp]

shantster wrote:

jfoxcpacfp wrote:

Ok, which one of you guys authorized this?

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From what I saw, she’s a service animal, not ESA. Miniature horses have been used for people have dog allergies or other reasons that they are unable to get service dogs. Obviously size is going to be a bigger issue with miniature horses than dogs, but they supposedly live ~30 years so it’s a more long-lasting service animal. Talking with some of the groups that train service dogs in the area, it can take 2 years or more to get a service animal trained and there are huge waiting lists at the charitable organizations for those who cannot pay the high fees for them, which is a large number of individuals with disabilities.

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Hey, you’re right! Never seen that before. Have read a couple of really good books about service dogs, very enlightening. Until Tuesday and Weekends with Daisy, highly recommended.

[Lordosis]

Anyone read the book "follow my leader". ? I should find that again.

[shantster]

jfoxcpacfp wrote:

Ok, which one of you guys authorized this?

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From what I saw, she's a service animal, not ESA. Miniature horses have been used for people have dog allergies or other reasons that they are unable to get service dogs. Obviously size is going to be a bigger issue with miniature horses than dogs, but they supposedly live ~30 years so it's a more long-lasting service animal. Talking with some of the groups that train service dogs in the area, it can take 2 years or more to get a service animal trained and there are huge waiting lists at the charitable organizations for those who cannot pay the high fees for them, which is a large number of individuals with disabilities.

[Zaphod]

You should've seen it where she rode it down to baggage claim.

[jfoxcpacfp]

Ok, which one of you guys authorized this?