Fellowship contract - Half fellow/Half Staff

[goblue667]

sds

[CordMcNally]

If it's a fellowship then I doubt you're going to have much say.

[eyecandy]

Like other said, you’re not a 1/2 first year attending so don’t expect that pay. Also holy moly fellowships pay that much!! I’m only 10 years out and I was paid 60K in VHCOL and had to split general call with attendings equal to them staffing emergency surgeries as the attending, etc. Count your blessings!

[CordMcNally]

its 65k though.. for a hospital that is nothing. I have already signed a contract to be staff next year. I believe I have some negotiating power. if its half responsibilities, there is no reason they cant pay me half salary... 1+1=2

Feel free to tell the hospital this. They'll think you should be lucky to even have the fellowship opportunity. I'll add, this won't be the best foot forward to start your fellowship.

[CordMcNally]

There is nothing wrong with negotiating dude. are you a sheep that goes along with whatever is offered? If they want you bad enough, they will pay you

This is going to go really, really well for you and judging by the tone of your replies they'll probably just write you a blank check.

In all reality, you asked a question that nobody here can answer. You're going to have to talk with the hospital but my guess is that this will be a 'take it or leave it' situation.

[bovie]

There is nothing wrong with negotiating dude. are you a sheep that goes along with whatever is offered? If they want you bad enough, they will pay you

I guess you'll find out how bad they want you then...

[GasFIRE]

Is this the same job discussed in this thread: https://forum.whitecoatinvestor.com/...-of-start-date ?
All of the warnings from the original posts still apply. If you're half-time each for fellowship/attending does this double the length of time for this deal? Are you planning on being a full-time pain specialist? If so, I think the department will be reluctant to unwind the 1/2 time call duties if they remain short-staffed as described in the original post. You can ask for more money this year but if they ante up I doubt it will be more than a token amount. What seems like only $65K to you could be additional profit to the department's bottom line that gets some physician/administrator a bonus. Unless you suggested this half-time position, it seems they are using your desire for fellowship training in pain to alleviate their manpower shortage in the OR.

[VentAlarm]

If probably leave it alone…

[8arclay]

Unless you suggested this half-time position, it seems they are using your desire for fellowship training in pain to alleviate their manpower shortage in the OR.

Bingo.

[Medstud21]

Pretty much all orthopedic fellowships (unless ACGME accredited) credential you as an attending with independent license and bill for you as such. Usually pay you 60-80k and prob generate 300-500k. You say thank you and move on.

[jacoavlu]

my fellowship (rads) was like 1/4 staff

largely same as residency, for real world you learn more when you’re on your own than you do when you’re supervised