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    Is there anyone that has access/a copy of the 2017 AMGA Comp Survey?

    Apologies if this is in the wrong forum. I wasn't sure which one to use.

    Thanks!

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    Is there anyone that has access/a copy of the 2017 AMGA Comp Survey?

    Apologies if this is in the wrong forum. I wasn’t sure which one to use.

    Thanks!
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    is this one?

    https://www.medscape.com/slideshow/2018-compensation-overview-6009667

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    • #3
      The one I am looking for is through the American Medical Group Association. It would actually be the 2018 report based on 2017 data.

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      • #4
        I've looked at AMGA data in the past.  Not sure if I have the 2018 report.  Are you looking for a particular specialty or data point?

         

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        • #5
          Here are some summary charts:Click Me Click Me Also

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          • #6
            I was looking for detailed data on specialties that tend to be under represented or not represented at all in most surveys (ie most sub specialties) and I was looking for detailed reports like 20th, median, 80th, 90th percentile, RVUs, etc. The AMGA 2014 data published in 2015 has all of these for every single specialty and sub specialty online in PDF format. Since that data is a bit outdated, I started looking for more recent data but I couldn’t find any so I thought I’d ask. Most of the other surveys from other vendors are not nearly as detailed and as in depth as AMGA as far as numbers and sub specialties. I hope that was clear.

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            • #7
              @ACN, the second link is great but was wondering if you have access to the pdf file for the most recent data?

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              • #8
                Numbers seem inflated for my neck of the woods.  Don’t see how these numbers say anything when you don’t account for location, employed versus non employed, etc.  I bet averages in nyc and Chicago are going to be far different from small town Arkansas or Nebraska.  I also know that these numbers don’t influence employers in saturated markets.  They just make you feel like your being ripped off, especially if you can’t move!

                Also, do these numbers include non comp benefits like insurance, retirement, disability?

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                • #9
                  @Raddoc123 I’m not certain but I doubt it.

                  Here is a link for the 2014/15 data.

                  http://physiciancompensation.org/PDFs/2015RSPWB/2015Survey.pdf

                  Anyone have a link to something similar for AMGA for recent years please share.

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                    Numbers seem inflated for my neck of the woods.  Don’t see how these numbers say anything when you don’t account for location, employed versus non employed, etc.  I bet averages in nyc and Chicago are going to be far different from small town Arkansas or Nebraska.  I also know that these numbers don’t influence employers in saturated markets.  They just make you feel like your being ripped off, especially if you can’t move!

                    Also, do these numbers include non comp benefits like insurance, retirement, disability?
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                    You can do substantially better than these figures (counting only cash comp, not benes) in the rural Midwest.
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                    • #11
                      You can also do much worse than these figures employed in a saturated metro. Aargh

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                        @raddoc123 I’m not certain but I doubt it.

                        Here is a link for the 2014/15 data.

                        http://physiciancompensation.org/PDFs/2015RSPWB/2015Survey.pdf

                        Anyone have a link to something similar for AMGA for recent years please share.
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                        Thanks for the link.  Are you looking for a specific specialty?  MGMA would be the other main resource

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                        • #13
                          @WealthyDoc, and @childay, I am looking for data for different percentile compensations for mostly surgical under represented sub specialties like sports ortho, GYN onc, ortho joint replacement, beriatric, vascular, transplant, REI, neurosurgery, cardiovascular/cardio thoracic, and some non surgical under represented sub specialties. Like I said, the link above leads to a comp survey unlike anyone I’ve seen before. That’s why I was hoping someone with access to AMGA data could send me a pdf with recent data. I am not just interested in one particular specialty. I’m interested in data from a bunch.

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                          • #14
                            I don't have AMGA data but I do know that MGMA data does break it out into percentile (Both by $$ per RVU and RVUs; 10%ile, 25%ile, 50%ile, 75%ile, 90%ile). It is expensive and my hospital keeps it under lock and key...

                            I can tell you that for General Ob/Gyn: Median $$/RVU is $49+ and Median RVUs is about 6000/year

                            I believe Ortho is about $68/RVU

                            Our hospital does a rolling three year average (some earlier years are higher than later years, and vice versa) and then they add a 3% cost of living increase. (So our Ob's get about $52/RVU and Ortho gets about $72/RVU)

                            Not sure if that is helpful or not... I'd find a hospital or friend at a hospital that has the MGMA book... it is large.

                             

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                            • #15
                              @SLC OB thanks for the info. Still not what I ultimately was asking.

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