Certainly these are interesting times. I wish I was savvy enough to know how to capitalize on the carnage in WTI today but alas I don't. The price correlation of oil ETF's like USO look absolutely dreadful in this market and unfortunately I misplaced my empty oil tanker in the gulf...
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Certainly these are interesting times. I wish I was savvy enough to know how to capitalize on the carnage in WTI today but alas I don't. The price correlation of oil ETF's like USO look absolutely dreadful in this market and unfortunately I misplaced my empty oil tanker in the gulf...
I looked earlier this am and thought about buy some puts on the futures since they seem to have a mispricing and seem to be priced as an equity, that is there is a zero lower bound. As many people learned today that isnt true for oil, a commodity that has a cost of carry, namely storage. It can go negative due to the extra cost necessary to store it. I dont think options reflected that, but didnt pay attention rest of day dang it, these are the kinds of trades you want.
I'll look again but Im sure market makers will be up all night adjusting pricing mechanisms and models.
FWIW, USO is not the way to play the may forward contract, it is only holding june as it rolls with 2wks left in the contract. It would have went to 0 today had that not been the case. June is over 20 bucks and I dont think people are going to suddenly have used up all the oil by the next contract expiry.
Crazy times.👍 1Comment
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Certainly these are interesting times. I wish I was savvy enough to know how to capitalize on the carnage in WTI today but alas I don't. The price correlation of oil ETF's like USO look absolutely dreadful in this market and unfortunately I misplaced my empty oil tanker in the gulf...Comment
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FWIW, USO is not the way to play the may forward contract, it is only holding june as it rolls with 2wks left in the contract. It would have went to 0 today had that not been the case. June is over 20 bucks and I dont think people are going to suddenly have used up all the oil by the next contract expiry.
Crazy times.👍 1Comment
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I did take a peek at some of the oil short ETFs under the assumption that June contracts would undergo a similar fall as May, as there is no reason to believe there will be a big leap in demand. It would have been a nice bet, seeing that the futures are implying a 35% jump in the ultrashort ETF. But that can go both ways and my goal here by moving to cash was to reduce volatility, not morph into a methamphetamine-laced power trader. So, I sit and I watch and shake my head.
2008 had the "Lehman moment"... anyone think that this historical collapse of oil might be signalling something more ominous than just a technical curiosity of futures contracts?👍 1Comment
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With the June and July contracts also weakening, does this tell us something about the likely rate of rebound of the overall economy, or lack thereof? Along with other indicators such as drying up of credit (lenders tightening standards), treasury notes, withdrawal of corporate guidance, etc.Comment
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With the June and July contracts also weakening, does this tell us something about the likely rate of rebound of the overall economy, or lack thereof? Along with other indicators such as drying up of credit (lenders tightening standards), treasury notes, withdrawal of corporate guidance, etc.Comment
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ill take the hippie side of this.....glad the industry is capsizing and imploding. happy to have many of these operations closed full time. hopefully some of those communities can pivot, otherwise they can be left by the wayside.
force some change to renewables, keep some of this cleaner environment for a little while longer, etc, etc etc.
other than that i dont really have an interest. carry on!👍 2Comment
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ill take the hippie side of this.....glad the industry is capsizing and imploding. happy to have many of these operations closed full time. hopefully some of those communities can pivot, otherwise they can be left by the wayside.
force some change to renewables, keep some of this cleaner environment for a little while longer, etc, etc etc.
other than that i dont really have an interest. carry on!👍 5Comment
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Is it really though this time? So much of the reduced use is artificial and because of the shelter in place orders. I am sure it is correlated but maybe not as bad as it would seem.Comment
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ill take the hippie side of this.....glad the industry is capsizing and imploding. happy to have many of these operations closed full time. hopefully some of those communities can pivot, otherwise they can be left by the wayside.
force some change to renewables, keep some of this cleaner environment for a little while longer, etc, etc etc.
other than that i dont really have an interest. carry on!👍 4Comment
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