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  • East coast
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    Canaries are dropping. The Long Wave will not be denied.


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    What is your asset allocation if you don’t mind me asking?
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    He/she told us previously, though I am to lazy to find the exact breakdown! I believe it was Pet Rocks, Pet Rock Producers, and straight cash.

    Am I the only one who suspects this account is that of one of those Russian/Eastern European sockpuppets we keep hearing about placed to sow fear in our financial markets?

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  • ENT Doc
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    Canaries are dropping. The Long Wave will not be denied.


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    What is your asset allocation if you don't mind me asking?

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  • Complete_newbie
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    I disagree that we need active managers.  We need active traders, not necessarily active managers.  The market is set by them and will continue to be set by them, absent of active management.

    Harvard disgusts me on many levels, and I do get some pleasure in seeing their high brow approach take a beating in the media and compared to their other uppity peers.  These asshats could skim 2% off their returns on an annualized basis and completely fund educational expenses for all their students.  Instead they charge $90k per year to go to their medical school, allowing their graduates to leave with nearly $400k of debt.  Shameful.  I would point out, however, that these are 1 year returns.  If you look at the long haul, as you can see in the above financial report, they clearly beat a passive fund strategy.  So while we may take solace in the fact that our portfolios beat them over a short period of time, the upper crust may have the upper hand.
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    They beat passive investment. They are justified in their active managers then. Rich keep getting richer.

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  • RadDoc6876
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    "The $35.7 billion endowment — whose assets are down 5 percent from a year ago — has been buffeted since the crisis by questions of whether the investment model that once made it famous no longer works."

    Or...did it ever "work"...that's the question.  Oh wait--here's the answer:

    "For 10 years, Harvard reported a 5.7 percent annualized gain, compared with 6.9 percent for a 60/40 portfolio of domestic stocks and bonds."

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  • ENT Doc
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    I disagree that we need active managers.  We need active traders, not necessarily active managers.  The market is set by them and will continue to be set by them, absent of active management.

    Harvard disgusts me on many levels, and I do get some pleasure in seeing their high brow approach take a beating in the media and compared to their other uppity peers.  These asshats could skim 2% off their returns on an annualized basis and completely fund educational expenses for all their students.  Instead they charge $90k per year to go to their medical school, allowing their graduates to leave with nearly $400k of debt.  Shameful.  I would point out, however, that these are 1 year returns.  If you look at the long haul, as you can see in the above financial report, they clearly beat a passive fund strategy.  So while we may take solace in the fact that our portfolios beat them over a short period of time, the upper crust may have the upper hand.

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  • Complete_newbie
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    You need active managers. If everyone passively indexes then we will all be screwed. Be nice to the other party.

    Also would be interested to see how the fund does in bear market.

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  • janettebournes
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    Thread bump

    This time with a focus on Yale

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/yale-slammed-warren-buffetts-favorite-investing-advice-still-endorsed-203129137.html

    "“[Low-cost passive index strategies] make sense for organizations lacking the resources and capabilities to pursue successful active management programs, a group that arguably includes a substantial majority of endowments and foundations,” Yale writes.

    “However, Yale has demonstrated its ability to identify top-tier active managers that consistently generate better-than-market returns, after considering performance fees.”


    Simply stated, Yale thinks low-cost index funds are good, they are just not good for Yale."


     

    I think Madoff's clients probably made similar claims.

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  • canadianoutlaw
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    Follow up story gives a little more detail

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2016/9/29/a-tale-of-two-endowments/

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  • Zaphod
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    I dont get it, they had a $1.7b distribution to the university, accounting for almost all of their loss? Their actual loss looks tiny considering the fiscal year it was in had the Aug flash crash, new year correction, and brexit. That volatility would hurt any type of fund.

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  • PhysicianOnFIRE
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    Endowments, as well as foundations/family offices etc., are totally different beasts than our personal finance world, so tough to draw comparisons. For those laughing at the returns, Harvard has done pretty well (especially relevant for the long-term investors of this board!):

    Average annualized return of 5.9% over the past five years, vs. 5.4% for its benchmark; 5.7% for 10 years, compared with 4.8% for its benchmark; and 10.4% over the past 20 years, vs. 7.7% for the benchmark.

     
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    There's that East Coast bias showing up. What is this, the Heisman vote?

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  • East coast
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    Endowments, as well as foundations/family offices etc., are totally different beasts than our personal finance world, so tough to draw comparisons. For those laughing at the returns, Harvard has done pretty well (especially relevant for the long-term investors of this board!):

    Average annualized return of 5.9% over the past five years, vs. 5.4% for its benchmark; 5.7% for 10 years, compared with 4.8% for its benchmark; and 10.4% over the past 20 years, vs. 7.7% for the benchmark.

     

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  • jhwkr542
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    200 employees?

    For anyone interested

    http://www.hmc.harvard.edu/docs/Final_Annual_Report_2016.pdf

     

     
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    I seriously could not stop laughing at this line from the summary: "However, we recognize that execution was also a key factor in this year's disappointing results."

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  • childay
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    200 employees?

    For anyone interested

    http://www.hmc.harvard.edu/docs/Final_Annual_Report_2016.pdf

     

     

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  • Craigy
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    It wasn’t clear from the article, but are the losses before or after the salaries paid to the staff that manages it?
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    It's a multibillion (with a B) dollar endowment so salaries should be a pretty small fraction of a percentage.

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  • chrisCD
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    It wasn't clear from the article, but are the losses before or after the salaries paid to the staff that manages it?

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